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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>
Cc: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk,
	"Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, stolee@gmail.com, newren@gmail.com,
	"Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/8] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 12:18:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47d4c810-0b56-45b0-944c-72c4d047f9b6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1r4vl65w.fsf@gitster.g>

On 08/10/2021 19:31, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com> writes:
> 
>> Phillip Wood wrote:
> 
>>> I was looking at the callers to prime_cache_tree() this morning
>>> and would like to suggest an alternative approach - just delete
>>> prime_cache_tree() and all of its callers!
> 
> Do you mean the calls added by new patches without understanding
> what they are doing, or all calls to it?

I mean all calls to prime_cache_tree() after having understood (or at 
least thinking that I understand) what they are doing. As I tried to 
explain in the part of my message that you have cut

(a) a successful call to unpack_trees() updates the cache tree

(b) all the existing calls to prime_cache_tree() follow a successful 
call to unpack_trees() and nothing touches in index in between the call 
to unpack_trees() and prime_cache_tree().

Maybe I've misunderstood something but that leads me believe those calls 
can be removed without degrading performance.

Best Wishes

Phillip

> Every time you update a path in the index from the working tree
> (e.g. "git add") and other sources, the directory in the cache-tree
> that includes the path is invalidated, and the surviving subtrees of
> cache-tree is used to speed up writing the index as a tree object,
> doing "diff-index --cached" (hence "git status"), etc.  So over
> time, the cache-tree "degrades" as you muck with the index entries.
> 
> When you write out the index as a tree, we by definition have to
> know the object names of all the tree objects that correspond to
> each directory in the index.  A fully valid cache-tree is saved when
> it happens, so the above process can start over.
> 
> There are cases other than "git write-tree" that we can cheaply
> learn the object names of all the tree objects that correspond to
> each directory in the index.  When we read the index from an
> existing tree object, we know which tree (and its subtrees) we
> populated the index from, so we can salvage a degraded cache-tree.
> 
> "reset --hard" and "reset --mixed" may be good opportunities, so is
> "checkout <branch>" that starts from a clean index.  And cache tree
> priming is a mechanism to take advantage of such an opportunity.
> 
> The cache-tree does not have to be primed and all you lose is
> performance, so priming can be removed mostly "without an issue", if
> you are not paying attention to cache-tree degradation.  Priming
> with incorrect data, however, would leave permanent damage by
> writing a wrong tree via "git write-tree" (hence "git commit") and
> showing a wrong diff via "git diff-index [--cached]" (hence "git
> status" and probably "git add -- <pathspec>"), so not priming is
> safer than priming incorrectly.
> 
> HTH.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-09 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-30 14:50 [PATCH 0/7] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 14:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] reset: behave correctly with sparse-checkout Kevin Willford via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 18:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-01 14:55     ` Victoria Dye
2021-09-30 14:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] sparse-index: update command for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 19:17   ` Taylor Blau
2021-09-30 20:11     ` Victoria Dye
2021-09-30 21:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-30 22:59         ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-01  0:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-04 13:47             ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-01  9:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-09-30 14:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 14:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 14:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-09-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 6/7] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-01 15:03   ` Victoria Dye
2021-09-30 14:51 ` [PATCH 7/7] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-05 13:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] reset: behave correctly with sparse-checkout Kevin Willford via GitGitGadget
2021-10-05 19:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-05 21:59       ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-06 12:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-06  1:46     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-06 20:09       ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-06 10:31     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] update-index: add --force-full-index option for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06  2:00     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-06 20:40       ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-08  3:42         ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-08 17:11           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-06 10:33     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06  2:04     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06  2:15     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-06 17:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06  3:43     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-06 20:56       ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-06 10:34     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06  4:43     ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-07 14:34       ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-05 13:20   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-06 10:37     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-05 15:34   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-05 20:44     ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-06  5:46   ` Elijah Newren
2021-10-07 21:15   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] reset: rename is_missing to !is_in_reset_tree Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] reset: preserve skip-worktree bit in mixed reset Kevin Willford via GitGitGadget
2021-10-08  9:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] update-index: add --force-full-index option for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-08  2:50       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-08  5:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-08 15:47         ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-08 17:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-11 14:12             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-10-11 15:05               ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-11 15:24               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-08 11:09       ` Phillip Wood
2021-10-08 17:14         ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-08 18:31           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-09 11:18             ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2021-10-10 22:03               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-11 15:55                 ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-11 16:16                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-12 10:16                 ` Phillip Wood
2021-10-12 19:15                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-12 10:17           ` Phillip Wood
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-20 22:02       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-22 16:46         ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-07 21:15     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] reset: rename is_missing to !is_in_reset_tree Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] reset: preserve skip-worktree bit in mixed reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-22  4:19         ` Emily Shaffer
2021-10-25 15:59           ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] sparse-index: update command for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-11 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39       ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 1/8] reset: rename is_missing to !is_in_reset_tree Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 2/8] reset: preserve skip-worktree bit in mixed reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 3/8] sparse-index: update command for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 4/8] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 5/8] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 6/8] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 7/8] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-20 22:05           ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-22 16:54             ` Victoria Dye
2021-10-27 14:39         ` [PATCH v5 8/8] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-20 22:13         ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 15:52         ` [PATCH v6 " Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 1/8] reset: rename is_missing to !is_in_reset_tree Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 2/8] reset: preserve skip-worktree bit in mixed reset Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 3/8] sparse-index: update command for expand/collapse test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 4/8] reset: expand test coverage for sparse checkouts Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 5/8] reset: integrate with sparse index Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 6/8] reset: make sparse-aware (except --mixed) Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 7/8] reset: make --mixed sparse-aware Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 15:52           ` [PATCH v6 8/8] unpack-trees: improve performance of next_cache_entry Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 18:37           ` [PATCH v6 0/8] Sparse Index: integrate with reset Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 19:44             ` Victoria Dye
2021-11-30  3:59               ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-01 20:26               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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