From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65A71F5AE for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 04:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230218AbhFLEnh (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:43:37 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f42.google.com ([209.85.216.42]:38412 "EHLO mail-pj1-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229968AbhFLEnh (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:43:37 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f42.google.com with SMTP id m13-20020a17090b068db02901656cc93a75so6974491pjz.3 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjPOwgab3lgCo08YCF7nFyCHXH0euPOyQfoWfJ7KNtc=; b=nORJKinwJ5C/ekfCiWVulrkuYFYsgD/6Qsbol252d5xrc3Z46ym1Lg4XaFoMpJsfSn 1zVr6lnAncvhDjvm7+k+kAUhNpXlceJq285/bDOvwDoUExq2MdvZ1JN1cWcz3Dw2Trau ZQQpwEb1d6q5THp4h1p5nFzm6fwIpW7ymn6TLcXJlnQdT9Dk7jVc3rcoWal9j09EvAQm dQTDjVdw03+zf49LDCp6M6SMbHZXR3suadeiCywrrH/HTBV2EHj8tfCV0QlWKrO70DjT A+xN91cJ/R/vdaTXqIQlddscKYQBu721Z9HorJTcb+p67IItZHm79WL3MsPFZ5abOL0v I3tQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjPOwgab3lgCo08YCF7nFyCHXH0euPOyQfoWfJ7KNtc=; b=t6VvF/zSzyd8OScWiqawLyJ6b36M4aOMybgR0eGyEdOlR5enxXVZCuV10tAkeAW5Uc ogL6kX1iI3BajfMyYvI/gSOCMtrmjgPHIfbw72qU5AFIEzNiPge0EfVvbefxIJ63hpU2 3qo3JnE+q9v9M+DCYyNV1KapksgzlPbsylh0qYgNs3/fE/EOLB9+mNQEx7lSrZdzg3fP ysgRzUq+2dDKBEqAOjR8hyRTAZCkxQ3dkdbNeWgPC7K6tJBefPnBQU701kqNIB6RwusO OCdYl3CfQnDLyuun/GTU0egZK5WIu5/O2g5V3s0Tjq7TOl21e7dj0iE/N6rnzmvBESPA 7QSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530ivB0syxwO5gs55iYnskUbk48DMEy2x/RBE3iS6hVn/ImtHE03 6cOTZMpY9sJDUOkeksUbIHE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyUZzvAfJfe1nzHkPKzXnWF1s6OPYkmb43UT39iIwp4cN4uqOk9NKR7VBgbUTdrkYEy2qHFmA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3e8d:: with SMTP id rj13mr12545663pjb.159.1623472838221; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.43.80] (subs03-180-214-233-78.three.co.id. [180.214.233.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j24sm6176119pfe.58.2021.06.11.21.40.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Use singular "they" when appropriate To: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org Cc: gitster@pobox.com, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, stolee@gmail.com, jrnieder@gmail.com, emilyshaffer@google.com, Derrick Stolee References: From: Bagas Sanjaya Message-ID: <3fcda131-1e59-341d-d4fa-473f203d5f9d@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:40:34 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Hi, On 07/06/21 23.57, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote: > This patch series officially adopts singular "they" as a contributor > guideline; see Patch 4 for the change to the guidelines and the reasoning > for the change. Before modifying the guidelines, documentation and comments > are updated to not use gendered pronouns, which provides examples of how to > use it. Sorry for late into this debate, because I'm still on recovering from fever a week ago (I still have headache and prefer eating less). Honestly I'm against this patchset. There are concerns from ESL learners (myself included) which have been taught that `they` MUST be used as plural pronoun. As an alternative while still keeping singular constructs, why don't we use gender neutral pronoun "it"? -- An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara