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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:22:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dc00733-e736-9483-4a46-372e1560bcc2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cRQJ9VpRk_0oz4BP3GF7dtsHtE3Qcd=nGsS26=JZvps7g@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/18/2020 1:45 AM, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 4:13 PM Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
> <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +static int launchctl_boot_plist(int enable, const char *filename, const char *cmd)
>> +{
>> +       child.no_stderr = 1;
>> +       child.no_stdout = 1;
>> +       if (start_command(&child))
>> +               die(_("failed to start launchctl"));
> 
> Did you have any thoughts on the observation I made in a followup
> response[1] during review of v3 in which I suggested that we might be
> able to avoid suppressing stderr (and stdout) here? In particular, the
> idea was that if, in launchctl_schedule_plist(), we do a simple
> existence check for the .plist file and only call
> launchctl_boot_plist(0,...) to `bootout` the .plist file if it exists,
> then we shouldn't need to muck with stderr/stdout suppression. The
> benefit is that if `bootout` fails for some reason, then the user
> would see the (hopefully) meaningful error message emitted `launchctl
> bootout`.
> 
> The same .plist existence check could be done in
> launchctl_remove_plist() before trying to `bootout` the file.

If the file exists but isn't still registered with launchd, then
the bootout command will send output

"<path>.plist: Could not find specified service"

and return a failure code. This output isn't helpful to users,
since we still are in the desired state afterwards.

> Anyhow, such refinement can be done later is desired, so not worth a
> re-roll, but I was curious about your thoughts on the issue.

This pattern of squashing the output even in the successful case
is important for Windows where schtasks sends a line of output for
each task being registered!

I think it would be a reasonable extension to store the error
message for logging or communicating to the user if we actually
need it, but I don't believe we should be piping the output
directly.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-18 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-03 14:03 [PATCH 0/3] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-03 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-03 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-03 18:45   ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-03 21:21     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-03 22:27       ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-04 13:33         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-04 14:17       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-03 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/3] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-03 19:06   ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-03 21:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-03 20:18 ` [PATCH 0/3] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Junio C Hamano
2020-11-03 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-03 21:09   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-03 22:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-04 13:02       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-04 17:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-04 18:43           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-04 20:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-04 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-04 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-11  7:10     ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-04 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-11  8:12     ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-12 13:42       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-12 16:43         ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-04 20:06   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-11  8:59     ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-12 13:56       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-13 14:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-13 14:00     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-13 14:00     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-13 14:00     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-13 20:19       ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-13 20:42         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-13 20:53           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-13 20:56             ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-13 14:00     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-13 20:44       ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-13 21:32         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-13 21:40           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-16 13:13             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-13 20:47     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Eric Sunshine
2020-11-14  9:23       ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-16 13:17         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-17 21:13     ` [PATCH v4 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-17 21:13       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-17 21:13       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-18  0:34         ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-18 18:30           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-17 21:13       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-18  6:45         ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-18 18:22           ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2020-11-17 21:13       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-18  7:15         ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-18 18:30           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-18 20:54             ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-18 21:16               ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-17 23:36       ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Eric Sunshine
2020-11-24  2:20         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24  2:59           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-17 23:54       ` Eric Sunshine
2020-11-24  4:16       ` [PATCH v5 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24  4:16         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24  4:16         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24  4:16         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24  4:16         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-11-27  9:08           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-12-09 19:28         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-12-09 19:28           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-12-09 19:29           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-12-09 19:29           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-12-09 19:29           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2020-12-10  0:32           ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Maintenance IV: Platform-specific background maintenance Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10  0:49             ` Eric Sunshine
2020-12-10  1:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-05 12:17                 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-05 13:08           ` [PATCH v7 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-05 13:08             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] maintenance: extract platform-specific scheduling Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-05 13:08             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] maintenance: include 'cron' details in docs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-05 13:08             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] maintenance: use launchctl on macOS Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-01-10  6:34               ` Eric Sunshine
2021-01-05 13:08             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] maintenance: use Windows scheduled tasks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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