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From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, pawelparuzel95@gmail.com,
	sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, "Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	tboegi@web.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:14:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34b22185-a0bc-f712-b5e5-fc5e2697dcc2@jeffhostetler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180809142333.GB1439@sigill.intra.peff.net>



On 8/9/2018 10:23 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 05:41:10PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>>> If we have an equivalence-class hashmap and feed it inodes (or again,
>>> some system equivalent) as the keys, we should get buckets of
>>> collisions.
>>
>> I guess one way to get "some system equivalent" that can be used as
>> the last resort, when there absolutely is no inum equivalent, is to
>> rehash the working tree file that shouldn't be there when we detect
>> a collision.
>>
>> If we found that there is something when we tried to write out
>> "Foo.txt", if we open "Foo.txt" on the working tree and hash-object
>> it, we should find the matching blob somewhere in the index _before_
>> "Foo.txt".  On a case-insensitive filesytem, it may well be
>> "foo.txt", but we do not even have to know "foo.txt" and "Foo.txt"
>> only differ in case.
> 
> Clever. You might still run into false positives when there is
> duplicated content in the repository (especially, say, zero-length
> files).  But the fact that you only do the hashing on known duplicates
> helps with that.
> 

I worry that the false positives make this a non-starter.  I mean, if
clone creates files 'A' and 'B' (both equal) and then tries to create
'b', would the collision code reports that 'b' collided with 'A' because
that was the first OID match?  Ideally with this scheme we'd have to
search the entire index prior to 'b' and then report that 'b' collided
with either 'A' or 'B'.  Neither message instills confidence.  And
there's no way to prefer answer 'B' over 'A' without using knowledge
of the FS name mangling/aliasing rules -- unless we want to just assume
ignore-case for this iteration.

> One of the things I did like about the equivalence-class approach is
> that it can be done in a single linear pass in the worst case. Whereas
> anything that searches when we see a collision is quite likely to be
> quadratic. But as I said before, it may not be worth worrying too much
> about that for an error code path where we expect the number of
> collisions to be small.
> 
> -Peff
> 

Sorry to be paranoid, but I have an index with 3.5M entries, the word
"quadratic" rings all kinds of alarm bells for me.  :-)

Granted, we expect the number of collisions to be small, but searching
back for each collision over the already-populated portion of the index
could be expensive.

Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-27  9:59 Git clone and case sensitivity Paweł Paruzel
2018-07-27 20:59 ` brian m. carlson
2018-07-28  4:36   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  4:45     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  4:48       ` Jeff King
2018-07-28  5:11         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  9:48           ` Simon Ruderich
2018-07-28  9:56           ` Jeff King
2018-07-28 18:05             ` brian m. carlson
2018-07-29  5:26             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-29  9:28               ` Jeff King
2018-07-30 15:27                 ` [PATCH/RFC] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-31 18:23                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-01 15:25                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-31 18:44                   ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-31 19:12                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31 19:29                       ` Jeff King
2018-07-31 20:12                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31 20:37                           ` Jeff King
2018-07-31 20:57                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-01 21:20                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 14:43                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-02 16:27                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 19:06                                     ` Jeff King
2018-08-02 21:14                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 21:28                                         ` Jeff King
2018-08-03 18:23                                           ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-03 18:49                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-03 18:53                                             ` Jeff King
2018-08-05 14:01                                               ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-03 14:28                                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-01 15:21                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-31 19:13                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-01 15:16                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-07 19:01                   ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-07 19:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-08 19:48                       ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-08 22:31                         ` Jeff King
2018-08-09  0:41                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-09 14:23                             ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 21:14                               ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2018-08-09 21:34                                 ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 21:40                                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 21:44                                   ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 21:53                                     ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 21:59                                       ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 23:05                                         ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 22:07                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 15:36                     ` [PATCH v3 0/1] clone: warn on colidding entries on checkout Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-10 15:36                       ` [PATCH v3 1/1] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-10 16:42                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-11 10:09                         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-08-11 13:16                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-13 16:55                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 17:12                               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 16:12                       ` [PATCH v3 0/1] clone: warn on colidding entries on checkout Junio C Hamano
2018-08-12  9:07                       ` [PATCH v4] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-13 15:32                         ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-13 17:18                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-15 19:08                         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-15 19:35                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 15:56                             ` [PATCH] config.txt: clarify core.checkStat = minimal Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-16 17:01                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-16 18:19                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 22:29                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 15:26                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 15:29                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-15 19:38                           ` [PATCH v4] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Junio C Hamano
2018-08-16 14:03                             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-16 15:42                               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 16:23                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 16:16                         ` [PATCH v5] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-17 17:20                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 18:00                             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-17 19:46                           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-19  8:20                           ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2018-11-19 12:28                             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-19 17:14                               ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-19 18:24                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:03                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:04                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:17                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 23:29                                     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-19 23:54                                       ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-20  1:05                                         ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-20  2:22                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 16:28                                       ` [PATCH] clone: fix colliding file detection on APFS Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-20 19:20                                         ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-20 19:35                                         ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-20 19:38                                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-22 17:59                                         ` [PATCH v1 1/1] t5601-99: Enable colliding file detection for MINGW tboegi
2018-11-22 20:16                                           ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2018-11-23 11:24                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-19 17:21                               ` [PATCH v5] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Ramsay Jones
2018-11-19 19:39                                 ` Carlo Arenas
2018-07-31 19:39                 ` Git clone and case sensitivity Jeff Hostetler

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