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From: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email>
To: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Dennis Ameling via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Dennis Ameling <dennis@dennisameling.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] ci(vs-build): build with NO_GETTEXT
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:11:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32d1ae55-669a-c71f-95f9-345fcd42eb87@iee.email> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2107131403040.76@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

On 13/07/2021 13:19, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi Ævar,
>
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 23 2021, Dennis Ameling via GitGitGadget wrote:
>>
>>> diff --git a/.github/workflows/main.yml b/.github/workflows/main.yml
>>> index 0f7516c9ef..3b40c677ab 100644
>>> --- a/.github/workflows/main.yml
>>> +++ b/.github/workflows/main.yml
>>> @@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ jobs:
>>>        shell: bash
>>>        run: |
>>>          cmake `pwd`/contrib/buildsystems/ -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=`pwd`/compat/vcbuild/vcpkg/installed/x64-windows \
>>> -        -DMSGFMT_EXE=C:/git-sdk-64-minimal/mingw64/bin/msgfmt.exe -DPERL_TESTS=OFF -DPYTHON_TESTS=OFF -DCURL_NO_CURL_CMAKE=ON
>>> +        -DNO_GETTEXT=YesPlease -DPERL_TESTS=OFF -DPYTHON_TESTS=OFF -DCURL_NO_CURL_CMAKE=ON
>>>      - name: MSBuild
>>>        run: msbuild git.sln -property:Configuration=Release -property:Platform=x64 -maxCpuCount:4 -property:PlatformToolset=v142
>>>      - name: bundle artifact tar
>> To a first approximation isn't the point of CI to test a diversity of
>> setups?
> No, the point of CI is to find breakages.
>
> And in this instance, a careful analysis will reveal that the artifacts
> generated via `msgfmt` are not even used, let alone tested.
>
> Even more careful analysis will reveal that Git for Windows does not ship
> with translations. Therefore, it would be pointless to test the
> translations here. Doubly so because Git for Windows is not even built
> using MSVC, and this `vs-build` job is really about verifying that we can
> build with that compiler, and _iff_ we used `msgfmt` here, it would not be
> Visual Studio's (because it doesn't have any `msgfmt`) but the regular one
> from Git for Windows' SDK. Triply so because the regular one from Git for
> Windows' SDK _is actually used_ in the `windows-build` job, therefore we
> _really_ do not need to repeat the same exercise with the same gettext
> version and the same git/git revision in the same GitHub workflow run.
>
> In short: there is no diversity to be gained here. (Actually, that is not
> quite true: by using gentler language on a first-time contributor instead
> of immediately going into full critic mode without any fanfare, we could
> have invited more diversity onto this list. Maybe you could pay more
> attention to that in the future?)
>
> Back to the issue you pointed out: could this be described in the commit
> message? Sure. But I think there is no much worth in it, the surrounding
> code and parent commit makes it clear that the `.mo` files aren't used,
> and that it would therefore be a waste of electrons to generate them in
> each and every `vs-build` run.
>
> Ciao,
> Johannes
Folks,

This problem (vcpkg/VS/CI build breakage for the tar artifact) has also
just come up for me on
https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/pull/3306#issuecomment-879093798
"[RFC] making Git for Windows start buildins in modern Visual Studio
#3306" which is a similar build situation.

Hopefully we can chose a suitable solution regarding what, if any, extra
checks this part of the CI build ought to do with the (unused in this
build) `.mo` files.

--
Philip


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-13 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-23 15:24 [PATCH 0/6] ci: speed-up the Windows parts of our GitHub workflow Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/6] ci: use the new GitHub Action to download git-sdk-64-minimal Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/6] ci (vs-build): use `cmd` to copy the DLLs, not `powershell` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/6] ci: upgrade to using actions/{up,down}load-artifacts v2 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 4/6] ci(windows): transfer also the Git-tracked files to the test jobs Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 5/6] ci(vs-build): build with NO_GETTEXT Dennis Ameling via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04  8:27   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-04  8:52     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-13 12:19     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-13 15:11       ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2021-07-14  8:51         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-14  7:54       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-06-23 15:24 ` [PATCH 6/6] ci: accelerate the checkout Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-01 22:03 ` [PATCH 0/6] ci: speed-up the Windows parts of our GitHub workflow Junio C Hamano
2021-07-03 21:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] ci: use the new GitHub Action to download git-sdk-64-minimal Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] ci (vs-build): use `cmd` to copy the DLLs, not `powershell` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] ci: upgrade to using actions/{up,down}load-artifacts v2 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] ci(windows): transfer also the Git-tracked files to the test jobs Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] artifacts-tar: respect NO_GETTEXT Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04  8:30     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-04 22:52       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-05  6:33         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] ci(vs-build): build with NO_GETTEXT Dennis Ameling via GitGitGadget
2021-07-03 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] ci: accelerate the checkout Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04  8:54     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-04 22:37       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-04 22:55   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] ci: speed-up the Windows parts of our GitHub workflow Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] ci: use the new GitHub Action to download git-sdk-64-minimal Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-06 19:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] ci (vs-build): use `cmd` to copy the DLLs, not `powershell` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ci: upgrade to using actions/{up,down}load-artifacts v2 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ci(windows): transfer also the Git-tracked files to the test jobs Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] artifacts-tar: respect NO_GETTEXT Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] ci(vs-build): build with NO_GETTEXT Dennis Ameling via GitGitGadget
2021-07-05  6:45       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-05 12:44         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-06 19:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-14  8:47         ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-07-04 22:55     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] ci: accelerate the checkout Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-07-06 23:20     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] ci: speed-up the Windows parts of our GitHub workflow Junio C Hamano

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