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From: Florian Achleitner <florian.achleitner.2.6.31@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Florian Achleitner <florian.achleitner.2.6.31@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, David Michael Barr <davidbarr@google.com>,
	Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4 v2] Implement a basic remote helper for svn in C.
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:12:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3225988.4e4jhmQGr7@flomedio> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120728070030.GC4739@burratino>

On Saturday 28 July 2012 02:00:31 Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Thanks for explaining.  Now we've discussed a few different approproaches,
> none of which is perfect.
> 
> a. use --cat-blob-fd, no FIFO
> 
>    Doing this unconditionally would break platforms that don't support
>    --cat-blob-fd=(descriptor >2), like Windows, so we'd have to:
> 
>    * Make it conditional --- only do it (1) we are not on Windows and
>      (2) the remote helper requests backflow by advertising the
>      import-bidi capability.
> 
>    * Let the remote helper know what's going on by using
>      "import-bidi" instead of "import" in the command stream to
>      initiate the import.

Generally I like your prefered solution.
I think there's one problem:
The pipe needs to be created before the fork, so that the fd can be inherited. 
There is no way of creating it if the remote-helper advertises a capability, 
because it is already forked then. This would work with fifos, though.

We could:
- add a capability: bidi-import. 
- make transport-helper create a fifo if the helper advertises it.
- add a command for remote-helpers, like 'bidi-import <pipename>' that makes 
the remote helper open the fifo at <pipename> and use it.
- fast-import is forked after the helper, so we do already know if there will 
be a back-pipe. If yes, open it in transport-helper and pass the fd as command 
line argument cat-blob-fd. 

--> fast-import wouldn't need to be changed, but we'd use a fifo, and we get 
rid of the env-vars.
(I guess it could work on windows too).

What do you think?

> 
> b. use envvars to pass around FIFO path
> 
>    This complicates the fast-import interface and makes debugging hard.
>    It would be nice to avoid this if we can, but in case we can't, it's
>    nice to have the option available.
> 
> c. transport-helper.c uses FIFO behind the scenes.
> 
>    Like (a), except it would require a fast-import tweak (boo) and
>    would work on Windows (yea)
> 
> d. use --cat-blob-fd with FIFO
> 
>    Early scripted remote-svn prototypes did this to fulfill "fetch"
>    requests.
> 
>    It has no advantage over "use --cat-blob-fd, no FIFO" except being
>    easier to implement as a shell script.  I'm listing this just for
>    comparison; since (a) looks better in every way, I don't see any
>    reason to pursue this one.
> 
> Since avoiding deadlocks with bidirectional communication is always a
> little subtle, it would be nice for this to be implemented once in
> transport-helper.c rather than each remote helper author having to
> reimplement it again.  As a result, my knee-jerk ranking is a > c >
> b > d.
> 
> Sane?
> Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-30  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-04 17:20 [RFC 0/4] Florian Achleitner
2012-06-04 17:20 ` [RFC 1/4] Implement a basic remote helper vor svn in C Florian Achleitner
2012-06-04 17:20   ` [RFC 2/4] Integrate remote-svn into svn-fe/Makefile Florian Achleitner
2012-06-04 17:20     ` [RFC 3/4] Add svndump_init_fd to allow reading dumps from arbitrary FDs Florian Achleitner
2012-06-04 17:20       ` [RFC 4/4] Add cat-blob report pipe from fast-import to remote-helper Florian Achleitner
2012-06-05  1:33         ` David Michael Barr
2012-06-05  6:56         ` Jeff King
2012-06-05  7:07           ` David Michael Barr
2012-06-05  8:14             ` Jeff King
2012-06-05 22:16               ` Florian Achleitner
2012-06-06 13:43                 ` Jeff King
2012-06-06 21:04                   ` Florian Achleitner
2012-06-05  8:51           ` Johannes Sixt
2012-06-05  9:07             ` Jeff King
2012-06-05 22:17               ` Florian Achleitner
2012-06-05  9:09             ` Johannes Sixt
2012-06-05  1:21       ` [RFC 3/4] Add svndump_init_fd to allow reading dumps from arbitrary FDs David Michael Barr
2012-06-29  7:49 ` [RFC 0/4 v2] Florian Achleitner
2012-06-29  7:54   ` [RFC 1/4 v2] Implement a basic remote helper for svn in C Florian Achleitner
2012-07-02 11:07     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-06  0:30       ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-06 10:39         ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-26  8:31       ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-26  9:08         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-26 16:16           ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-28  7:00             ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-30  8:12               ` Florian Achleitner [this message]
2012-07-30  8:29                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-30 13:55                   ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-30 16:55                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-31 19:31                       ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-31 22:43                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-08-01  8:25                           ` Florian Achleitner
2012-08-01 19:42                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-08-12 10:06                               ` Florian Achleitner
2012-08-12 16:12                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-08-12 19:39                                   ` Florian Achleitner
2012-08-12 20:10                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-08-12 19:36                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-26 17:29           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-30  8:12             ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-26  9:45       ` Steven Michalske
     [not found]       ` <358E6F1E-8BAD-4F82-B270-0233AB86EF66@gmail.com>
2012-07-26 11:40         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-26 14:28           ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-26 14:54             ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-27  7:23               ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-28  6:54                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-06-29  7:58   ` [RFC 2/4 v2] Integrate remote-svn into svn-fe/Makefile Florian Achleitner
2012-06-29  7:59   ` [RFC 3/4 v2] Add svndump_init_fd to allow reading dumps from arbitrary FDs Florian Achleitner
2012-06-29  8:00   ` [RFC 4/4 v2] Add cat-blob report fifo from fast-import to remote-helper Florian Achleitner
2012-07-21 12:45     ` [RFC 4/4 v3] " Florian Achleitner
2012-07-21 14:48       ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-21 15:24         ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-21 15:44           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-22 21:03             ` Florian Achleitner
2012-07-22 21:24               ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-21 15:58           ` Jonathan Nieder

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