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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Eric DeCosta <edecosta@mathworks.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/12] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor for Linux
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:11:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <221019.8635bjhbds.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cRi8RVdmPbDdTzDCpXKjUsbOJNc5Pr+d02OQ9jENHUjfQ@mail.gmail.com>


On Tue, Oct 18 2022, Eric Sunshine wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:22 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
> <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 18 2022, Glen Choo wrote:
>> > I'm not too familiar with the CI, but I took a quick peek at ci/lib.sh
>> > and noticed that none of the jobs build with sha1dc, not even the Linux
>> > or Windows ones, so..
>>
>> All of our jobs except the OSX one build with SHA1_DC, because it's the
>> default.
>>
>> Per my just-sent
>> https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover-v2-0.4-00000000000-20221019T010222Z-avarab@gmail.com/
>> the blind spot has been lack fo SHA1_DC on OSX, for others it's the
>> reverse, we don't test e.g. BLK_SHA1.
>>
>> In practice we've been catching SHA-implementation specific code early
>> because the OSX implementation was different, but in this case it's
>> OSX-only code, so it only supported the Apple Common Crypto backend.
>
> I don't know how germane it is to the current thread, but previous
> discussions[1,2,3,4] favored dropping use of Apple's Common Crypto
> altogether since it doesn't seem to buy us much (or anything) and is
> incomplete; it doesn't support all of the OpenSSL API Git uses.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPig+cTfMx_kwUAxBRHp6kNSOtXsdsv=odUQSRYVpV21DnRuvA@mail.gmail.com/
> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAMYxyaVQyVRQb-b0nVv412tMZ3rEnOfUPRakg2dEREg5_Ba5Ag@mail.gmail.com/T/
> [3]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/20160102234923.GA14424@gmail.com/
> [4]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPig+cQ5kKAt2_RQnqT7Rn=uGmHV9VvxpQ+UgDPOj=D=pq6arg@mail.gmail.com/

Yeah, maybe. I'd be 100% OK with that happening, but I don't use OSX
outside fo CI really, so I wanted to avoid scope creep to "non-SHA stuff
we use OpenSSL/AppleCommonCrypto/whatever" for, in the cases where we
can/do use OpenSSL/AppleCommonCrypto/whatever for SHA also.

I.e. that's basically a question about what https://, git-imap-send
etc. should be using if not vanilla OpenSSL & the like.

But if you/someone can come up with a patch that confidently asserts
that it's useless & drops it I'd be happy to either integrate it &
submit it as part of this series if it makes things simpler, or
alternatively re-roll on top of it.

I'm just not confident in making that case myself, since I hardly use
the platform, am not too familiar with the various concerns (aside from
skimming the links above), and don't really have interest in pursuing
that.

OTOH if you do want to make the case for dropping Apple Common Crypto
that would also presumably be much easier after this series, once we're
past justifying the hurdle of "wait, we're switching the thing we use
for SHA-1 by default, which we build practically everything in git on?"
:)

1. https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPig+cQ5kKAt2_RQnqT7Rn=uGmHV9VvxpQ+UgDPOj=D=pq6arg@mail.gmail.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-19 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-09 14:37 [PATCH 00/12] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 01/12] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-18 12:29   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 02/12] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/12] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/12] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/12] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/12] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/12] fsmonitor: prepare to share code between Mac OS and Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 22:36   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-10 16:23   ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/12] fsmonitor: determine if filesystem is local or remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-10 10:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-14 19:38     ` Eric DeCosta
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/12] fsmonitor: implement filesystem change listener for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/12] fsmonitor: enable fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/12] fsmonitor: test updates Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-18 12:42   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-09 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/12] fsmonitor: update doc for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-18 12:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-09 22:24 ` [PATCH 00/12] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor " Junio C Hamano
2022-10-10  0:19   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-10 21:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14 21:45 ` [PATCH v2 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 01/12] fsmonitor: refactor filesystem checks to common interface Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 02/12] fsmonitor: relocate socket file if .git directory is remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-18 12:12     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 03/12] fsmonitor: avoid socket location check if using hook Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 04/12] fsmonitor: deal with synthetic firmlinks on macOS Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 05/12] fsmonitor: check for compatability before communicating with fsmonitor Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 06/12] fsmonitor: add documentation for allowRemote and socketDir options Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 07/12] fsmonitor: prepare to share code between Mac OS and Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 23:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-17 21:30       ` Eric DeCosta
2022-10-18  6:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 08/12] fsmonitor: determine if filesystem is local or remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 09/12] fsmonitor: implement filesystem change listener for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-18 11:59     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 10/12] fsmonitor: enable fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 11/12] fsmonitor: test updates Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:45   ` [PATCH v2 12/12] fsmonitor: update doc for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 23:32   ` [PATCH v2 00/12] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor " Junio C Hamano
2022-10-17 21:32     ` Eric DeCosta
2022-10-17 22:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-18 14:02       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-10-17 22:14   ` Glen Choo
2022-10-18  4:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-18 17:03       ` Glen Choo
2022-10-18 17:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-19  1:19         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19  2:28           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-19 16:58             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-19 19:11             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-10-19 20:14               ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-19  1:04       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-19 16:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 16:13       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 16:37         ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-20 17:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 17:54             ` Eric Sunshine
2022-10-20 15:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 22:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-16 23:23   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] fsmonitor: prepare to share code between Mac OS and Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] fsmonitor: determine if filesystem is local or remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] fsmonitor: implement filesystem change listener for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] fsmonitor: enable fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] fsmonitor: test updates Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:23     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] fsmonitor: update doc for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-16 23:27     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor " Taylor Blau
2022-11-23 19:00     ` [PATCH v4 " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fsmonitor: prepare to share code between Mac OS and Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] fsmonitor: determine if filesystem is local or remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-25  7:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-12 10:24         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] fsmonitor: implement filesystem change listener for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 10:42         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] fsmonitor: enable fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] fsmonitor: test updates Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-11-23 19:00       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] fsmonitor: update doc for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:57       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] fsmonitor: prepare to share code between Mac OS and Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] fsmonitor: determine if filesystem is local or remote Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] fsmonitor: implement filesystem change listener for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] fsmonitor: enable fsmonitor " Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] fsmonitor: test updates Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2022-12-12 21:58         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] fsmonitor: update doc for Linux Eric DeCosta via GitGitGadget
2023-04-12  5:42         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] fsmonitor: Implement fsmonitor " Junio C Hamano
2022-10-18 12:47 ` [PATCH 00/12] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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