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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk
Cc: Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] test_todo: allow [!] grep as the command
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 22:26:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <221006.86r0zkr8w2.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3f4a79c-2dc6-fbf4-fc61-591ebf417682@dunelm.org.uk>


On Thu, Oct 06 2022, Phillip Wood wrote:

> On 06/10/2022 16:56, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 06 2022, Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk>
>>>
>>> Many failing tests use grep, this commit converts a sample to use
>>> test_todo(). As POSIX specifies that a return code greater than one
>>> indicates an error rather than a failing match we take care not the
>>> hide that.
>> Ah, so on the one hand this gives me second thoughts about my stance
>> in[1], i.e. if we just allowed any command we wouldn't be forced to add
>> these sorts of special-cases.
>> Although, we could also allow any command, and just add smartness
>> for
>> ones we know about, e.g. "grep".
>> But I do find doing this to be weirdly inconsistent, i.e. caring
>> about
>> the difference between these two:
>> 	$ grep blah README.md; echo $?
>> 	1
>> 	$ grep blah README.mdx; echo $?
>> 	grep: README.mdx: No such file or directory
>> 	2
>
> The intent was to catch bad options, not missing files (i.e. we don't
> want test_todo to hide a failure from "grep --invalid-option"). We
> could check the file exists and skip running grep if it does not
> (hopefully the test wont be grepping multiple files in a single
> command)

It returns the same exit code for missing files and bad options, so I
don't think this plan will work.

I.e. I (in my initial series) wanted to have something where we declared
what the behavior was right now, *and* what it should be.

But some of our tests are wishy-washing "I wish this worked", so:

	test_todo git some-new-cmd && # should write "unicorn" to a new foo.txt
	test_todo grep unicorn foo.txt

Won't do what you expect?

>> Is basically why I took the approach I did in my [2], i.e. to force us
>> to positively assert *what* the bad behavior should be.
>
> That is what made the end result so hard to use though
>
> 	test_todo \
> 		--want "test_must_fail git" \
> 		--reset "git reset --hard" \
> 		--expect git \
> 		-- \
> 		rm d/f &&
>
> is not exactly readable.

Yes, indeed:) Anyway, my just-sent
https://lore.kernel.org/git/221006.86v8owr986.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com/
goes into that.

I think a "test_todo" should either be a "strictly declare stuff", or a
"YOLO this" where we just detect segfaults.

But per the above having it be some mix of the two is just confusing,
i.e. to extend the example above:

	test_todo git some-new-cmd &&
	test_todo test_path_exists foo.txt &&
	test_todo grep unicorn foo.txt

Won't "work", because the "test_path_exists" isn't strict, but your
"grep" is.

So I think whatever "test_todo" does it should be picking one or the
other.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-06 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-06 15:01 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] tests: add test_todo() for known failures Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget
2022-10-06 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] [RFC] tests: add test_todo() to mark known breakages Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget
2022-10-06 15:36   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 16:10     ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-06 20:33       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-06 22:37   ` Victoria Dye
2022-12-07 12:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-08 15:06     ` Phillip Wood
2022-12-09  1:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-09  9:04         ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-06 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] [RFC] test_todo: allow [!] grep as the command Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget
2022-10-06 15:56   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 16:42     ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-06 20:26       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-10-06 15:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] [RFC] test_todo: allow [verbose] test " Phillip Wood via GitGitGadget
2022-10-06 16:02   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-06 17:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] tests: add test_todo() for known failures Junio C Hamano
2022-10-06 19:28 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-10-07 13:26   ` Phillip Wood
2022-10-07 17:08     ` Junio C Hamano

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