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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, me@ttaylorr.com, newren@gmail.com,
	dyroneteng@gmail.com, Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] docs: document bundle URI standard
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 20:27:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220609.86v8t9sn6r.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk09plnze.fsf@gitster.g>


On Thu, Jun 09 2022, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> writes:
> [...]
>> I hope I am going in the right direction here, but I likely
>> misunderstood some of your proposed alternatives.
>
> I wasn't seriously "proposing" an alternative.  It was just that it
> looked wasteful to go to a separate format (i.e. bundle) when packfiles
> should suffice, as you would be adding extra information that is not
> in bundles via the table-of-contents anyway, and what is given by a
> bundle that is missing in a packfile is only the refs information,
> which should be trivial to add to the table-of-contents.

One thing that got pointed out to me by someone interested in this
feature is that they'd be interested in serving up historical git
repositories with a repo.bundle file.

We're much better off with a format that includes refs for those use
cases, even though no version of the patches that have been kicked
around support this particular use-case yet (but it would be relatively
easy as a follow-up).

I also daresay that bundles will tend to integrate better into existing
infrastructure, since if you're doing incremental backups with them it's
a natural extension to throw those same incremental updates at a CDN and
serve them up with bundle-uri.

I also think we can come up with much better tooling for collections of
bundles than random packfiles, since they declare what "tip" they want,
and we're able to add arbitrary key-values to the header format in the
future (and Stolee already added one such key-value).

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-09 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-06 19:55 [PATCH 0/6] bundle URIs: design doc and initial git fetch --bundle-uri implementation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 1/6] docs: document bundle URI standard Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-06 22:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 19:20     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-08 19:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 20:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 20:52         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-07  0:33   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 19:46     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-08 21:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-09 16:00         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-09 17:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-09 18:27             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-06-09 19:39             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-09 20:13               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-21 19:34       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-21 20:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-21 21:10           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-21 21:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 2/6] remote-curl: add 'get' capability Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-21 22:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 3/6] bundle-uri: create basic file-copy logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 4/6] fetch: add --bundle-uri option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 5/6] bundle-uri: add support for http(s):// and file:// Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-06 19:55 ` [PATCH 6/6] fetch: add 'refs/bundle/' to log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-29 20:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] bundle URIs: design doc and initial git fetch --bundle-uri implementation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] docs: document bundle URI standard Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-18  9:20     ` SZEDER Gábor
2022-07-21 12:09     ` Matthew John Cheetham
2022-07-22 13:52       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-22 16:03       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-21 21:39     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-07-22 13:15       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-22 15:01       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] remote-curl: add 'get' capability Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-21 21:41     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] bundle-uri: create basic file-copy logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-21 21:45     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-07-22 13:18       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] fetch: add --bundle-uri option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] bundle-uri: add support for http(s):// and file:// Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-06-29 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] fetch: add 'refs/bundle/' to log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-21 21:47     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-07-22 13:20       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-21 21:48   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] bundle URIs: design doc and initial git fetch --bundle-uri implementation Josh Steadmon
2022-07-21 21:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-25 13:53   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-25 13:53     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] docs: document bundle URI standard Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-28  1:23       ` tenglong.tl
2022-08-01 13:42         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-25 13:53     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] bundle-uri: add example bundle organization Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04 16:09       ` Matthew John Cheetham
2022-08-04 17:39         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 20:29           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 18:29             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-25 20:05     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] bundle URIs: design doc and initial git fetch --bundle-uri implementation Josh Steadmon
2022-08-09 13:12     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] bundle URIs: design doc Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-09 13:12       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] docs: document bundle URI standard Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-10-04 19:48         ` Philip Oakley
2022-08-09 13:12       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] bundle-uri: add example bundle organization Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-09 13:49       ` [PATCH v4 0/2] bundle URIs: design doc Phillip Wood
2022-08-09 15:50         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-11 15:42           ` Phillip Wood

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