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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
	Kristoffer Haugsbakk <code@khaugsbakk.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/10] refs: root refs can be symbolic refs
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 02:20:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240515062023.GB110841@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkQ3EiL1OY10Y2JP@tanuki>

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 06:16:18AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:

> > Making the classification purely syntactic based on the name feels
> > simpler to me to reason about. You'll never run into confusing cases
> > where repo state changes how commands may behave.
> 
> I certainly agree and have been complaining about that in the past, too.
> I didn't dare to change the semantics this far yet. Let's have a look at
> the callers:
> 
>   - "ref-filter.c:ref_kind_from_refname()" uses it to classify refs.
>     It's clear that the intent is to classify based on the ref name,
>     only.
> 
>   - "refs/files_backend.c:add_pseudoref_and_head_entries()" uses it to
>     determine whether it should add a ref to the root directory. It
>     feels fishy that this uses ref existence checks to do that.
> 
>   - "refs/reftable_backend.c:reftable_ref_iterator_advance()" uses it to
>     filter root refs. Again, using existence checks is pointless here as
>     the iterator has just surfaced the ref, so it does exist.
> 
>   - "refs.c:is_current_worktree_ref()" uses it. Fishy as well, as the
>     call to `is_per_worktree_ref()` also only checks for the refname.
> 
> So let's remove these existence checks altogether and make this a check
> that purely checks semantics.

Thanks for doing the digging on the callers. That matches my intuition /
light analysis, which is good. ;)

> > And arguably is_pseudoref_syntax() should be taking into account the
> > "_HEAD" restriction and special names anyway. It is a bit weird that
> > even if we tighten up the refname checking to use is_pseudoref_syntax(),
> > you'd still be able to "git update-ref FOO" but then not see it as a
> > root ref!
> 
> True, as well. I'm less comfortable with doing that change in this
> series though as it does impose a major restriction that did not exist
> previously. We probably want some escape hatches so that it would still
> be possible to modify those refs when really required, for example to
> delete such broken refs.
> 
> I would thus like to defer this to a follow up patch series, if you
> don't mind.

I don't mind deferring. I thought it might make the simplifications
you're doing in this series easier to reason about. But TBH I haven't
had the chance to look through your series very carefully yet (and I'm
still a bit back-logged), so I'm happy to go with your judgement on how
to split it up.

-Peff


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-15  6:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-29 13:41 [PATCH 0/3] Clarify pseudo-ref terminology Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 13:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: move `is_special_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] refs: do not label special refs as pseudo refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 15:12   ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-30  7:30     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30  9:59       ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-30 12:11         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 10:23       ` Jeff King
2024-04-30 12:07         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 12:33           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:16         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 16:24   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-29 22:52   ` Justin Tobler
2024-04-30  7:29     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-09 17:29   ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2024-05-10  8:33     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 13:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] refs: fix segfault in `is_pseudoref()` when ref cannot be resolved Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29 15:25   ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-29 18:57   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-29 19:47     ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-29 20:44       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30  7:30     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:26 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Clarify pseudo-ref terminology Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:49     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 17:17     ` Justin Tobler
2024-04-30 20:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  8:07       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 13:35     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:56     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 20:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:58     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] refs: classify HEAD as a root ref Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] refs: root refs can be symbolic refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 17:09     ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-02  8:07       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 20:49         ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-07 10:32           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:26   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] refs: pseudorefs are no refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 12:27   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30 13:11     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02  8:08       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02 10:03         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 12:27   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] refs: refuse to write pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Clarify pseudo-ref terminology Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] refs: classify HEAD as a root ref Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] refs: root refs can be symbolic refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 18:13     ` Jeff King
2024-05-15  4:16       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  4:39         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:22           ` Jeff King
2024-05-15  6:35             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:49               ` Jeff King
2024-05-15  6:59                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:20         ` Jeff King [this message]
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] refs: pseudorefs are no refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] refs: refuse to write pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Clarify pseudo-ref terminology Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 01/10] Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 02/10] Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 03/10] Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 04/10] refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 05/10] refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 06/10] refs: root refs can be symbolic refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 07/10] refs: classify HEAD as a root ref Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 08/10] refs: pseudorefs are no refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 09/10] ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10  8:48   ` [PATCH v4 10/10] refs: refuse to write pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 18:59   ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Clarify pseudo-ref terminology Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15  6:50 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 01/10] Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 02/10] Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 03/10] Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 04/10] refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 05/10] refs: rename `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 06/10] refs: do not check ref existence in `is_root_ref()` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15 20:38     ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-16  4:13       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:50   ` [PATCH v5 07/10] refs: classify HEAD as a root ref Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15 20:44     ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-15  6:51   ` [PATCH v5 08/10] refs: pseudorefs are no refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:51   ` [PATCH v5 09/10] ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refs Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-15  6:51   ` [PATCH v5 10/10] refs: refuse to write pseudorefs Patrick Steinhardt

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