From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::1:20]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6431F43D for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 21:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: dcvr.yhbt.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=gsqH9Fjk; dkim-atps=neutral Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231949AbjCJVsz (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:48:55 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43440 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231967AbjCJVsi (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:48:38 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x32e.google.com (mail-ot1-x32e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32e]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0741B14DA02 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id l16-20020a9d4c10000000b006944b17058cso3713008otf.2 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1678484719; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:subject:cc :to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EjK2CaQW2Nox3Cp4BB0gYmRbowTkNT1iMa+2TsDhoPw=; b=gsqH9Fjkw8UpCpAII+5e1EfQCzfOh+9OiNuEq1ouVCV0m4Uz4NIvHOBFCz9wKyb2GG k4SR/3bTjmKzcYoQYKDjgoTJOYfbDpeGvhTycwULmqoZ7m1jvxyrow4zZSKhiiwCaSkc /RDOv7QPkbjpdGNJFoYjzwGfJclXeG3DW1/xfbURoTtq4ydvDuS07nbdVP5RwdWuAaAG +25wZon6Uv6QQ/r+e0ibjWymHM/sGas3b5Fhhw9PLF8qRZK9z/DGBrJF4LDimO+lv8jl uvg3/XwRO0LjCgIBclC+eIxIUpHB5ewpvQi1vUQBw2em9sdpbwU6aHEIMyJMBRFINMZa kAcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678484719; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:message-id:date:subject:cc :to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=EjK2CaQW2Nox3Cp4BB0gYmRbowTkNT1iMa+2TsDhoPw=; b=xseqTgUjv59s6DvufDNblzK0HCuzof94tynZN7kebWzVcaXVK5A9LqbtwLgSafqDkF oQZ9F2LsaE6djqKNb2QqVj18/G9VAZV5/xsGFtJfHwEM5R63mYrH0jgD7Zyb1w3KYegq EPTa2spjPC8Dkk/ynCUkH4muh+s/H3n1xSunr9bt9fewNiU5l4Vg2A+bwYMJ/2K0mFwG Y9f+DiCvbXjgv+T6ED5zAYqt9O5CzvL7XhaGpvkpJlbEVp/ijdW9SA3ktzg73TD5ha7l kjXWbVKSd/yFXtvFuBgW2Pb2QOp32TLv2U7jkjAUttXAuOsBoOFxAb18+vQlyreV9TaZ 6vQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKViIlGfziC+XNIiExQmKELqox+0b6vTwggnzCNRDOyMbpwH8EK6 ZDFcsOn2upUxqQvfmVWd/v2SorDFzHQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9rQPuIF7d8612qtyEyhZxH/oULETVMlWoVGYYXSI04mE7MuY8kFw81zzLGXkKKAdfLVK3yZA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:3141:b0:693:c3bb:863f with SMTP id c1-20020a056830314100b00693c3bb863fmr13624576ots.36.1678484718998; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([2806:2f0:4060:fff1:4ae7:daff:fe31:3285]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r17-20020a056830237100b00684bcc9e204sm495895oth.78.2023.03.10.13.45.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:17 -0800 (PST) From: Felipe Contreras To: git@vger.kernel.org Cc: =?UTF-8?q?Antoine=20Beaupr=C3=A9?= , Phillip Wood , Felipe Contreras Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Support for tail (branch point) experiment Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 15:45:12 -0600 Message-Id: <20230310214515.39154-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.40.0.rc2.1.gf652911b76.dirty MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org This is *not* meant a serious proposal, it's just an exploration of an idea. The topic of finding the actual point a branch started to fork has been discussed for decades [1] and yet no clear solution is in sight. That's why this idea I had in 2013 keeps coming back. The idea is simple: add the concept of a branch tail (e.g. `master@{tail}`. The motivation is that Git's main competitor--Mercurial--does have the ability to tell with 100% accuracy where a branch started, Git does not. Many hacks have been proposed, such as parsing the commit messages for "Merge branch", using the reflog, adding options like --exclude-first-parent-only. All these clever solutions fail in one way or another. If we stopped trying to be clever we could go for the easy solution: simply add a tail marker. This has many advantages: * `git rebase` can simply use that * `git send-email` can use that * `git range-diff` can use that * `git name-rev` will now be accurate I know most of my tools (`git send-seriels`, `git related`, and `git smart-list`) would greatly benefit from this information. Moreover, for one the most important commands of git, it makes much more sense semantically: git rebase --onto branch@{upstream} branch@{tail} branch Than the current: git rebase --onto something branch@{upstream} branch I'm not expecting this to be seriously considered (given the track record of my proposals), but now the idea is on the record, so it can be referenced in future discussions (which are likely not going to just stop). Cheers. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1527234/finding-a-branch-point-with-git/71193866#71193866 Felipe Contreras (3): branch: add new 'tail' concept sha1-name: add @{tail} helpers rebase: update branch tail after rebasing branch.c | 12 ++++++++++++ branch.h | 1 + builtin/clone.c | 1 + builtin/rebase.c | 15 +++++++++++++++ object-name.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++- t/t1514-rev-parse-tail.sh | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 6 files changed, 97 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) create mode 100755 t/t1514-rev-parse-tail.sh -- 2.40.0.rc2.1.gf652911b76.dirty