git@vger.kernel.org mailing list mirror (one of many)
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>, m <mahg361@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [feature request] resume capability for users in enemies of Internet countries
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 07:26:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221007072606.M704368@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221007071459.GM28810@kitsune.suse.cz>

Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@suse.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 08:44:09AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > On 10/7/22 01:01, m wrote:
> > > In my country government make connections unstable on purpose. Please add resume capability for commands like git clone
> > > 
> > 
> > Bandwidth issue?
> > 
> Bandwidth is one thing but the other thing is that git network
> operations require that the whole operation succeeds in one go.
> 
> If your connectivity is bad to the point that the TCP connection breaks
> you have downloaded a bunch of data that is AFAIK just thrown away when
> you retry.
> 
> It is difficult to know if that data would be useful in the future, and
> you cannot meaningfully 'resume' because the remote state might have
> changed in the meantine as well.
> 
> Further, this whole fetch operation is using a heuristic to fetch some
> data in the hope that it will be enough to reconstruct the history that
> is requested, and this has been wrong in some cases, too. Not very
> precise and reproducible hence hard to 'resume' as well.
> 
> Let's say that the git networking has been developed at and tuned for
> the 'first world' Internet, and may be problematic to use in net-wise
> backwater areas. And it would require non-trivial effort to change.

Increased adoption of bundles would help, since `wget -c' and such
would work nicely, but that puts the burden on hosts for extra storage.

Perhaps GIT_SMART_HTTP=0 and having dumb clones not throwaway
incomplete xfers would be more transparent to hosters, but dumb
HTTP tends to be slow even on good connections.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-07  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-06 18:01 [feature request] resume capability for users in enemies of Internet countries m
2022-10-07  1:44 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-07  7:14   ` Michal Suchánek
2022-10-07  7:26     ` Eric Wong [this message]
2022-10-07 10:03       ` Philip Oakley
2022-10-07 14:24         ` Derrick Stolee

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20221007072606.M704368@dcvr \
    --to=e@80x24.org \
    --cc=bagasdotme@gmail.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mahg361@gmail.com \
    --cc=msuchanek@suse.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://80x24.org/mirrors/git.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).