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From: Jiang Xin <worldhello.net@gmail.com>
To: Peter Krefting <peter@softwolves.pp.se>, Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Jiang Xin" <worldhello.net@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Jiang Xin" <zhiyou.jx@alibaba-inc.com>,
	"Alexander Shopov" <ash@kambanaria.org>,
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	"Emir SARI" <bitigchi@me.com>,
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	"Fangyi Zhou" <me@fangyi.io>, "Yi-Jyun Pan" <pan93412@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Incremental po/git.pot update and new l10n workflow
Date: Wed,  4 May 2022 20:41:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220504124121.12683-1-worldhello.net@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb74f3b-c2e9-947f-8f89-f51e79b17825@softwolves.pp.se>

On Tue, 3 May 2022, Peter Krefting  wrote:

> I do agree that checking in git.pot does create a lot of noise, but ther are
> other ways of fixing that than deleting the file completely. I am also
> translating for dpkg, and there they run "xgettext --add-location=file" to
> remove the line numbers from the POT and PO files (requires GNU gettext
> 0.19; they also use "po4a --porefs=noline" for manual page translations, but
> we do not have translation for manual pages for Git, yet). This reduces diff
> noise considerably.

To evaluate the impact of different formats of po files on the size of the
repository, I tailored the git repository with only "po/*" files with
history, and all "*.po" files are converted using "msgcat" into different
format in 3 different branches. See:

    https://github.com/jiangxin/git-po-filtered

* For po files with file-location:

        $ git clone --single-branch \
            --branch po-with-file-location \
            git@github.com:jiangxin/git-po-filtered.git \
            po-with-file-location

        $ du -sh po-with-file-location/.git/objects 
          28M    po-with-file-location/.git/objects

* For po files with file name only:

        $ git clone --single-branch \
            --branch po-with-file \
            git@github.com:jiangxin/git-po-filtered.git \
            po-with-file

        $ du -sh po-with-file/.git/objects 
         6.1M    po-with-file/.git/objects

* For po files without file-location:

        $ git clone --single-branch \
            --branch po-no-file-location \
            git@github.com:jiangxin/git-po-filtered.git \
            po-no-file-location

        $ du -sh po-no-file-location/.git/objects
         6.2M    po-no-file-location/.git/objects

From the above command output we can see that by removing line numbers
from po files, the size of the repository can be greatly reduced.

> I have been doing updates semi-off-line from my laptop for the last few
> months, without a proper build environment, and having the history for the
> POT file available for diffing has been useful.
> 

"po/git.pot" will be generated periodically at the following location,
where you can get "po/git.pot" if you don't have a build environment
at hand.

 * https://github.com/git-l10n/git-po/tree/pot/master/po


> > * L10n contributors can start translations at any time, even before the
> >  l10n announcing l10n window open. We must have a new l10n workflow,
> >  see patch 9/9.
> 
> You can always re-generate the POT file locally and not commit it, to update
> the PO files. That has not been a problem.

File-location meta info in po file can help l10n tools to locate context
easily. E.g.: When editing po file using Emacs (with po-mode), press the
key "s" (source) will open another window showing context of the specific
l10n message.

But if there is no file-location in "po/git.pot", we have no way to
generate po/XX.po with proper file-location. While if we store po/git.pot
with file location in git repository, repository size will get biger and
biger. As how to commit a po/XX.po without file locaiton automatically,
we add some instructions in patch 9/9, and we can also rewrite l10n CI
pipeline to validate po files from l10n contributors.

--
Jiang Xin

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-03 13:23 [PATCH 0/9] Incremental po/git.pot update and new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] po/git.pot: remove this now generated file, see preceding commit Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 14:07 ` [PATCH 0/9] Incremental po/git.pot update and " Peter Krefting
2022-05-04 12:41   ` Jiang Xin [this message]
2022-05-04 14:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-04 14:51   ` Daniel Santos
2022-05-05  0:20     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-05 22:00       ` Daniel Santos
2022-05-05 22:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-06  0:50         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-05  0:07   ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-04 17:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:28   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 14:32     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 14:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  8:12       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 13:42         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 14:38           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 16:13             ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:26       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 18:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 00/10] " Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 01/10] Makefile: sort source files before feeding to xgettext Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 02/10] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 03/10] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 04/10] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 05/10] Makefile: remove duplicate and unwanted files in FOUND_SOURCE_FILES Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 06/10] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 17:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 07/10] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 08/10] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 09/10] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 10/10] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-25 22:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 22:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  1:10           ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  2:15           ` [PATCH] Makefile: dedup git-ls-files output to prevent duplicate targets Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  4:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  6:06               ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  6:23                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  7:04                   ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 10:00                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-26 11:06                       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 17:18                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 18:25                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-26 19:00                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 19:17                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  8:50       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 15:00       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-24  0:56       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  9:37       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  8:30       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:35         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  9:28         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:53   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 12:41     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  9:18   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 12:48     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  9:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 13:19     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 14:06       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:02   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:07   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 17:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-21 15:06     ` Jiang Xin

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