From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F7B1F5AE for ; Thu, 13 May 2021 00:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230267AbhEMAQS (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 20:16:18 -0400 Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.20]:49375 "EHLO wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1351891AbhELXwt (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 19:52:49 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E321B3F; Wed, 12 May 2021 19:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 12 May 2021 19:51:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= linuxprogrammer.org; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=fm3; bh=8nekpU8tBfHPz4Gtyu0dfRO2VHHK7AC5owUxeXAZ auY=; b=b2vFjQ5iKe3ZU+78KpGg7FSgDQ1pfizs/hvEn5x+QnxVzQrvF21bHsXj YdAVl3PwmqSyz7QepRmaQXZ4Czhb8sTphctpqXgiimocg8pjI8KxeWuOTP1P2hOm SDkVmD0xpjAsKxDLNhAjc++ymRWx+LM2Si2DDKensaov5vsFujUi3ThWJycyQOsx TvEWsdN+yVamQm0uz7eiY1RqhsawoZGoB1jllLr4eiTp+rR99vl488tiSF5vf6xu 0yuqv+yNP3Gu+/lxCZauibfOkjA00/qlnBJmWsegURfaFHvMdXKtH3f7e/N8FlEM 6Az1W/enrajkHRgb65mdh9MT2EwGmw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=8nekpU8tBfHPz4Gtyu0dfRO2VHHK7AC5owUxeXAZa uY=; b=H9gingw2Z5iOSrUDlBtR6IrkDb1m32o073XiSchxFQtiBEO94472OSkbz 42CpQG2fX9jmMxgGyReiMErumhxjQQwZQ0qeQehH7Aw1HKURmZ6KGqO/xw19/aGG x5iHerevMT1mEQCpgnn4oDGuiKzv4wwDr2fqQ3mv47jJF54ElfqU4SSVlxUGrrDg E5QDXmy2aYAH81d6VkU5GCwhLffgI690orQ3Jn5V/XzNIRE3PPztxreaGNCEvWIP 7yWVpVoO9sHMJRbVIiZBaBIgCQSUT1SIfOKQ+WXUeDOm4Zwb1LJfEbTf50K9RaAX 2DD5SzkuLyfFzFP1f0nnnpXoQ3Hiw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvdehfedgvdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtugfgjggfsehtkeertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghv vgcujfhushgvsgihuceougifhheslhhinhhugihprhhoghhrrghmmhgvrhdrohhrgheqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepheegudefteekvdegudeiheeiuefhkeeludfhffetvdekuefh hfetveelteegtefhnecukfhppedujeegrdehvddrudehrdefjeenucevlhhushhtvghruf hiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegufihhsehlihhnuhigphhrohhg rhgrmhhmvghrrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (c-174-52-15-37.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [174.52.15.37]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 12 May 2021 19:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 16:51:36 -0700 From: Dave Huseby To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano , Lars Schneider , =?utf-8?B?xJBvw6BuIFRy4bqnbiBDw7RuZw==?= Danh Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] SubmittingPatches: remove pine-specific hints from MUA hints Message-ID: <20210512235136.GB10785@localhost> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 12.05.2021 10:45, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >There hasn't been a release of Pine since late 2005, in Alpine the >no-strip-whitespace-before-send switch is already the default. > >This documentation was initially added in 9740d289ee7 (Update >SubmittingPatches to add MUA specific notes., 2005-08-26), at this >point it's safe to say that it's not useful to anyone anymore, let's >remove it. What is wrong with keeping it in there? My latest version of the etiquette patch moves my Mutt MUA config notes to this section on MUAs. It could eventually become a somewhat exhaustive reference of MUA tweaks. Old tools may not be popular but they sometime have niche uses and/or userbases. My recent switch to Mutt has been mixed at best and I went back to take a look at mh/nmh to see if I liked it better and I may give it a go for a while to kick the tires, likely making me the only developer that uses nmh. Keeping these notes on old tools--at the bottom of documentation no less--seems to have little to no "cruft cost" with the potential of helping somebody someday, even if nostalgia is the only reason. Cheers! Dave