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From: Stavros Ntentos <stdedos@gmail.com>
To: peff@peff.net
Cc: bagasdotme@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com,
	pclouds@gmail.com, stdedos+git@gmail.com, stdedos@gmail.com,
	sunshine@sunshineco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] pathspec: warn for a no-glob entry that contains `**`
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:43:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210326154350.17524-1-133706+stdedos@users.noreply.github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YF1tjaATILcSNuMa@coredump.intra.peff.net>

I think I have managed to address everyone's questions in this thread.
Hopefully everything will be addressed by this, and the patch that will soon follow:

> You may notice that I would call both of those latter two "globbing",
> but only one of them is triggered by the ":(glob)" magic. :)

And that's why I argued a DWIM was warranted here
(https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqft1iquka.fsf@gitster.g/; it's more clear
in Junio's quote, but you could of course read the original).

I would want to be considered as an above-average git user, and I still was
oblivious to the fact that `**` required a `:(glob)` from the command line.
Especially since `.gitignore` files are treated differently
(i.e. don't require `:(glob)`)

I cannot / don't want to argue to "do it" or not, as I think my experience
is not substantial enough to navigate such argument, and go from concept
to materialization.

That being said, if there was a cli.pathspec.wildmatch flag,
I would've had it set to true in my global gitconfig.
Ofc I could set `GIT_GLOB_PATHSPECS=1`, but I am not that happy to
force it by setting it in a shell rc, instead of where it belongs.

> I am not sure everything after the "the sky:" you wrote is what you
> meant to write.  Without being marked with a "glob" magic, a
> wildcard character in a pattern matches even a slash, so these two
>
> 	git ls-files 'Documentation**v2.txt'
> 	git ls-files 'Documentation*v2.txt'
>
> give the identical result and there is nothing about "surrounded by
> slashes" involved in it.

It seems you are right - in `fnmatch` mode, `:!*.gitignore` would've
served me right (and avoided the whole thread).

If you think that it's just my (i.e. few people's) lacking of understanding
`fnmatch` glob, then we can drop this.
However, given the disparity between `.gitignore` syntax and pathspec given
from the command line (from my limited POV meaningless/confusing), and your
(plural) arguments of backwards compatibility, I think we can draw the line
at an advice been acceptable.

Unless I see other points (like the warn vs advice), or pure C code-review
points, I am getting the impression that this thread will not move forward.
As I don't know how reviews usually happen here, and lacking some other medium
of discussion, I would appreciate (at some point) an explicit go/no-go
decision - to save everyone's time.

Being unfamiliar to the project, and being who I am, I prefer explicit vs implicit points.
Navigating an unknown process from top to bottom is pressure enough to me :-D

> seems to tell me that the "zero-or-more directories" magic happens
> only when /**/ form is used, not when two asterisks are placed next
> to each other in a random context.

Not exactly: ** needs to either start or end with a slash (or both) for its
wildmatch behavior. I can try to make the code more explicit, but of course
the code (and tests) will increase - and then maybe disproportionately to
the otherwise intended-to-be small change (since DWIM is not wanted).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-26 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-26 20:44 Pathspec does not accept / does not warn for specific pathspecs Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-02-26 23:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-25 10:22   ` [PATCH v1 0/1] pathspec: warn for a no-glob entry that contains `**` Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-25 10:22     ` [PATCH v1 1/1] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-25 11:00       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-03-25 11:04       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-03-25 16:09         ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-25 20:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-25 23:36   ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-25 23:36   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-26  0:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-26  1:32       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-03-26  3:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-26  5:13           ` Jeff King
2021-03-26 15:43             ` Stavros Ntentos [this message]
2021-03-26 15:48     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-26 15:48       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] pathspec: convert no-glob warn to advice Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-26  2:40   ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/1] pathspec: warn: long and short forms are incompatible Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-26  2:40     ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-26  5:28       ` Jeff King
2021-03-26 16:16         ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-27  9:41           ` Jeff King
2021-03-27 18:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-28 15:44               ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-26  2:40     ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] fixup! " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-26  8:14       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-03-26 15:55         ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-28 15:26       ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/3] squash! " Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-26  2:44   ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/1] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-26  2:44     ` [RFC PATCH v1] " Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-04-03 12:26     ` [PATCH v3] pathspec: advice: " Stavros Ntentos
2021-04-04  7:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-11 15:07         ` Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-04-11 19:10           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-11 20:53             ` Σταύρος Ντέντος
2021-03-28 15:45   ` [PATCH v2] " Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-28 19:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-30 17:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-30 19:05       ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-30 19:17         ` Stavros Ntentos
2021-03-30 20:36         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-03 12:48   ` [PATCH v3] " Stavros Ntentos
2021-04-03 12:51   ` [PATCH v4] " Stavros Ntentos

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