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From: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/11] upload-pack: advertise trace2 SID in v0 capabilities
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 10:44:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201105184455.GA36751@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqwnz2p0wo.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On 2020.11.03 13:48, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com> writes:
> 
> > When trace2 is enabled and trace2.advertiseSID is true, advertise
> > upload-pack's trace2 session ID via the new trace2-sid capability.
> 
> I would have imagined when advertiseSID is enabled, trace2, at least
> the part that allocates and assigns the session ID, ought to be
> enabled automatically.
> 
> But the above goes in a different direction and requires both to be
> enabled.  Any compelling reason behind the choice?

My reasoning was that by advertising the capability, you are telling the
remote side "I have definitely produced a log using this session ID. If
you need it later, you can find it with this key". If we advertise a
session ID even when trace2 is not enabled, the remote side can't be as
sure that the received session ID actually points to any useful logs on
the other side.

Of course, this is a weak guarantee since a client could send whatever
it likes regardless of whether anything was logged, or one side could
delete or lose its logs before the other decides it needs to view them.

I think your idea in a different subthread about having a general
session ID not tied to trace2 is interesting, and would also be a point
in favor of changing the current behavior here, but I have some thoughts
on that point that I'll add in the other subthread.

I'm still leaning towards advertising a session ID only if we actually
produced logs locally, but I'm open to further discussion.

> Does the documentation added by this series make it clear that
> asking for advertiseSID does NOT automatically enable allocation of
> session IDs (even if it does not explain why it does not happen)?

In V3 I'll update the docs to call out whichever decision we reach on
this point.

> Thanks.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-05 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29 21:32 [PATCH 00/10] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 01/10] docs: new capability to advertise trace2 SIDs Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/10] docs: new trace2.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/10] upload-pack: advertise trace2 SID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/10] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 05/10] serve: advertise trace2 SID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 06/10] transport: log received server trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 07/10] fetch-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/10] upload-pack, serve: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/10] send-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-10-29 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/10] receive-pack: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-10-30 15:54 ` [PATCH 00/10] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-02 22:20   ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 21:01       ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-10 21:37       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-10-30 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-02 22:30 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:30   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] docs: new capability to advertise trace2 SIDs Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 21:00       ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-12 14:05         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-11-12 17:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-12 22:10             ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-11 22:40       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] docs: new trace2.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 19:28       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-05 21:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 11:57           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] trace2: add a public function for getting the SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] upload-pack: advertise trace2 SID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03 21:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 18:44       ` Josh Steadmon [this message]
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] serve: advertise trace2 SID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] transport: log received server trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 22:53       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-12 21:30         ` Jeff Hostetler
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] fetch-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 18:58       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-05 19:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 23:32           ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] upload-pack, serve: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-04 21:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-05 19:12       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] send-pack: advertise trace2 SID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-02 22:31   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] receive-pack: log received client trace2 SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-03  1:02   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Advertise trace2 SID in protocol capabilities Junio C Hamano
2020-11-11 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Advertise session ID " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] docs: new capability to advertise session IDs Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 02/11] docs: new transfer.advertiseSID option Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 03/11] trace2: add a public function for getting the SID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 04/11] upload-pack: advertise session ID in v0 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 05/11] receive-pack: " Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 06/11] serve: advertise session ID in v2 capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 07/11] transport: log received server session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 08/11] fetch-pack: advertise session ID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 09/11] upload-pack, serve: log received client session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 10/11] send-pack: advertise session ID in capabilities Josh Steadmon
2020-11-11 23:29   ` [PATCH v3 11/11] receive-pack: log received client session ID Josh Steadmon
2020-11-25 22:08   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Advertise session ID in protocol capabilities Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25 22:56     ` Josh Steadmon

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