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From: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] docs: demonstrate difference between 'am' and 'apply'
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:13:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201022231311.GE2774782@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk0vpalcy.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 02:53:33PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
> Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:
> 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/git-am.txt b/Documentation/git-am.txt
> > index 38c0852139..e64f3f10e3 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/git-am.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/git-am.txt
> > @@ -24,6 +24,64 @@ Splits mail messages in a mailbox into commit log message,
> >  authorship information and patches, and applies them to the
> >  current branch.
> >  
> > +This command applies patches as commits. Use linkgit:git-apply[1] to apply
> > +patches to the worktree without creating commits.
> 
> I am not sure if "applies patches as commits" is acceptable,
> understandable and not misleading to normal readers.  It takes a
> mailbox with mailed patches, and for each message, applies the patch
> in it on top of the current commit and records the result as a child
> commit using the log message in it.
> 
> As "git apply" is primarily meant to work on "git diff" output, and
> it does not necessarily work on an arbitrary mbox (think: MIME), I
> do not think "if you do not want to make commit, use apply" is a
> good suggestion to begin with.  They serve completely different
> purposes and take different form of inputs.

Okay. I think I use 'git am' to apply individual mails, which also can
be applied with 'git apply'; but yes, 'git am' also can take an mbox,
and 'git apply' can't; 'git apply' can take the output of 'git diff' but
'git am' can't. I wonder how best to say so.

"This command applies patches from email (e.g. the output of 'git
format-patch', or an mbox), preserving metadata and creating commits.
Use <git-apply> to apply patches (e.g. the output of 'git format-patch'
or 'git diff') to the worktree without creating commits."

Thanks for pointing it out. I had blinders on - I use 'git format-patch'
and apply it with whichever is convenient, and in that specific case
either 'git am' or 'git apply' works. I'll try to send a new version
emphasizing the difference in input format.

 - Emily

> 
> > +
> > +EXAMPLE
> > +-------
> > +....
> > +# our sample patch, generated with 'git format-patch'
> > +$ cat ~/0001-README-add-more-text.patch
> > +From f9e01d7538c9d58b48500732b4f98f40f6ad845e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > +From: A U Thor <author@example.com>
> > +Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:14:42 -0700
> > +Subject: [PATCH] README: add more text
> > +
> > +Some additional context.
> > +
> > +Signed-off-by: A U Thor <author@example.com>
> > +---
> > + README | 2 +-
> > + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > +
> > +diff --git a/README b/README
> > +index cd08755..cfdf4e7 100644
> > +--- a/README
> > ++++ b/README
> > +@@ -1 +1 @@
> > +-Hello world!
> > ++Hello world! This is an example.
> > +--
> > +2.29.0.rc1.297.gfa9743e501
> > +
> > +# use 'git am' to create a new commit with details from the patch
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +nothing to commit, working tree clean
> > +$ git am ~/0001-README-add-more-text.patch
> > +Applying: README: add more text
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +nothing to commit, working tree clean
> > +$ git log --oneline
> > +dd6a400 (HEAD -> main) README: add more text
> > +90b59fb base commit
> 
> It is good to show "log" output after you injested the patch, but
> without knowing that we used to have only one commit in the history,
> the gravity of what they are seeing here may not sink in to readers'
> minds.
> 
> As I said already, I do not agree with the general idea to pretend
> that input to am is always a safe input to apply like the
> following.  However what we see above as an example session of "am"
> is an excellent thing to have, I would think.
> 
> > +# use 'git apply' to apply to the worktree without creating a commit.
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +nothing to commit, working tree clean
> > +$ git apply ~/0001-README-add-more-text.patch
> 
> IOW, this step may even fail or produce garbage (think: MIME).
> 
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +Changes not staged for commit:
> > +  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> > +  (use "git restore <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
> > +	modified:   README
> > +
> > +no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> 
> 
> So, I am moderately against everything under 'use git apply' line of
> the patch.  However, I do think it is a good idea to add a note
> somewhere in the manual of "am" to say something along the lines of
> the following (placed around here, or even immediately before we
> give the sample patch we used in the above example):
> 
>     While an output of "diff format-patch" (see above/below for an
>     example) is meant to be made into a commit with "git am",
>     what you have may only be an output of "git diff" without log
>     message and is not meant to be directly made into a commit.  In
>     such a case, you may want to refer to git-apply[1] to learn how
>     to apply such a change to your working tree (and optionally to
>     the index).
>    
> It would be a good idea to redirect those readers who are looking at
> "git am" when (perhaps realizing) they should rather be looking at
> "git apply" earlier rather than later, so perhaps taking "see below"
> side and giving it as a side-note before the example starts might be
> better.
> 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/git-apply.txt b/Documentation/git-apply.txt
> > index 91d9a8601c..38e9d8f713 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/git-apply.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/git-apply.txt
> > @@ -32,6 +32,61 @@ This command applies the patch but does not create a commit.  Use
> >  linkgit:git-am[1] to create commits from patches generated by
> >  linkgit:git-format-patch[1] and/or received by email.
> >  
> > +EXAMPLE
> > +-------
> > +....
> > +# our sample patch, generated with 'git format-patch'
> 
> s/format-patch/diff/
> 
> I would not prepare the diff to be fed to apply with format-patch
> and use it verbatim.  This description is sewing seed to confuse
> newbies by doing so.  The "apply to the working tree, think while
> staring at the resulting 'git diff' output and decide the next move,
> which may include typing 'git commit -a -e'" workflow starts with a
> "git diff" output.
> 
> If you have format-patch output, you are still better off running
> "am [-3]" on a throw-away branch if you want to take the "think
> while staring at the diff and decide the next move" approach.  That
> may better be added to "git am" documentation, though.
> 
> > +$ cat ~/0001-README-add-more-text.patch
> > +From f9e01d7538c9d58b48500732b4f98f40f6ad845e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > +From: A U Thor <author@example.com>
> > +Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:14:42 -0700
> > +Subject: [PATCH] README: add more text
> > +
> > +Some additional context.
> > +
> > +Signed-off-by: A U Thor <author@example.com>
> > +---
> > + README | 2 +-
> > + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > +
> > +diff --git a/README b/README
> > +index cd08755..cfdf4e7 100644
> > +--- a/README
> > ++++ b/README
> > +@@ -1 +1 @@
> > +-Hello world!
> > ++Hello world! This is an example.
> > +--
> > +2.29.0.rc1.297.gfa9743e501
> 
> So, the above sample input needs to be fixed, without e-mail headers
> or potential MIME.
> 
> > +# use 'git apply' to apply to the worktree without creating a commit.
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +nothing to commit, working tree clean
> > +$ git apply ~/0001-README-add-more-text.patch
> > +$ git status
> > +On branch main
> > +Changes not staged for commit:
> > +  (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
> > +  (use "git restore <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
> > +	modified:   README
> > +
> > +no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> 
> Or "apply --index" to affect both.  If we are helping people to
> learn the command by examples, we should add it (you may only be
> interested in teaching the difference between am and apply with this
> patch, but readers' interests are not limited by yours).
> 
> > +# use 'git am' to create a new commit with details from the patch
> 
> Again, I do not think this belongs here, especially given that the
> expected input is not necessarily out of format-patch.  Instead, a
> similar and opposite referral is needed to help readers who are here
> by mistake and should instead be over there.
> 
> Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-22 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-16 20:52 [PATCH 0/2] some small clarifying docfixes Emily Shaffer
2020-10-16 20:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] MyFirstContribution: clarify asciidoc dependency Emily Shaffer
2020-10-16 21:21   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-16 21:52     ` Taylor Blau
2020-10-16 22:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-22 23:14         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-16 20:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: demonstrate difference between 'am' and 'apply' Emily Shaffer
2020-10-16 21:13   ` Jeff King
2020-10-16 22:04     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-16 21:53   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-16 21:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-16 22:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-22 23:13     ` Emily Shaffer [this message]
2020-10-23  3:57       ` Junio C Hamano

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