From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Shengfa Lin <shengfa@google.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, nathaniel@google.com,
rsbecker@nexbridge.com, santiago@nyu.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:43:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201001034350.GB2930867@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqtuved70y.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>
Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Our setenv() may not
> be early enough---before the code that decides to call a setenv()
> is run, there are many things that are outside your control (like
> the tracing subsystem, repository discovery, etc.) will run, and if
> any of them does something that triggers tzset() to be called, it
> will be done with the value of TZ the process started with, and our
> setenv() that happens much later won't have any effect to it.
I thought about this before, but in fact it's okay: when calling a
function like localtime() (though not localetime_r() --- see my other
reply), tzset() is called each time so it is able to reflect any
updates to the TZ envvar from the interim.
[....]
> You can let the existing code produce its natural result and then
> when the "force UTC" flag is set, override the offset part to +0000
> if and only if the timezone was obtained from the current
> environment (this if-and-only-if is necessary, because you do not
> want to rewrite and force UTC when you run "git commit --amend"
> without the "--reset-author" option to update a commit that was
> created somewhere else to UTC). That way, we do not have to futz
> with TZ environment or tzset.
Yes, I think this is simpler and nicer than the proposal in my other
reply.
In addition to not having to futz with TZ, I think I like the
semantics better. The motivation that started this thread was not so
much "I want to set a custom timezone to blend in" but rather "why are
we recording the timezone at all here?" In that context, it makes
sense to me to have a setting such as
core.recordTimeZone
that I can turn *off* to say that I don't think datestamp() callers
should consider the timezone to be information worth recording (and
instead they should write +0000). To me that seems a little simpler
to understand than user.hideTimezone since this focuses on turning
some functionality off (recording of the time zone) instead of turning
on a new stealth mode.
Thanks,
Jonathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-01 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-05 17:14 [ISSUE] Stop accessing, storing, and sharing the user's time zone Nathaniel Manista
2019-12-05 17:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 17:33 ` Randall S. Becker
2019-12-05 17:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 17:53 ` Santiago Torres Arias
2019-12-05 18:00 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] hideTimezone: add a user.hideTimezone config Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 0:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:07 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-01 0:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 0:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:41 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:46 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:37 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:02 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 6:15 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-02 22:32 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-03 4:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-30 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 6:51 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-01 0:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 2:44 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-02 21:17 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-09-30 23:53 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] adding user.hideTimezone for setting UTC timezone Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 2:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-01 3:43 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2020-10-01 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-08 19:49 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <CAEOYnASgxCE5NjhoSgDwyQyAmdLhw5UyFq_Fu==8q7y6uXGz6w@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-09 16:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 21:56 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 22:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-03 3:50 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-03 4:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-03 19:53 ` brian m. carlson
2020-10-03 22:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-02 21:42 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-02 21:23 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 0/2] experiment with commit option record-time-zone Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 1/2] Adding a record-time-zone command option for commit Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 20:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 5:01 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-21 18:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-22 16:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-26 4:14 ` Shengfa Lin
2020-10-13 5:28 ` [WIP v2 2/2] Demonstrate failing and passing tests Shengfa Lin
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