From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8771F5AE for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728561AbgG1KH1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:07:27 -0400 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:54318 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728439AbgG1KH1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:07:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A1F1F5AE; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:07:26 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: Taylor Blau Cc: Carmen Andoh , git@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Nieder Subject: Re: Git Inclusion Summit Message-ID: <20200728100726.GA24408@dcvr> References: <20200726040226.GA19030@dcvr> <20200727151023.GB62919@syl.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200727151023.GB62919@syl.lan> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Taylor Blau wrote: > I think that it's tough to make individuals on both sides of this feel > comfortable. On the one hand, folks such as yourself may feel > uncomfortable with this format for the reasons that you posted above. On > the other hand, some folks may prefer audio or video instead of text > because they find it easier to express themselves with their body > language, intonation, etc. I can understand that. However most coding nowadays (especially for this project) is text, so that's already the lowest common denominator. > A bare minimum seems to be using a free service (I know that Jitsi Meet > is an often-recommended alternative) with support for joining without > video (either using audio only, or participating over chat). > > Hopefully everybody should have a good-enough internet connection to > stream a low-quality audio-only feed so that they can listen in and > participate via the chat feature. This is what we did at the > Contributor's Summit in March (I know we had a number of text-only > participants in time-zones where it was late, etc.). > > What are your thoughts? Jitsi w/ audio-only certainly seems to be a step in the right direction and would be more inclusive. Is there any speech-to-text transcription done for the hearing (or extremely bandwidth) impaired? It'd ideally go to #git on IRC (or something that doesn't require a browser to trigger swap storms on old systems). Even for people with good hearing, acceptable audio quality for speech seems tricky to get right, being dependent on mics, bandwidth, codecs, background noise, speaker/earphone quality, etc.