From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C3E1F45D for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727558AbgCWSua (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:50:30 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f193.google.com ([209.85.214.193]:40610 "EHLO mail-pl1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727361AbgCWSu3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:50:29 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f193.google.com with SMTP id h11so6288406plk.7 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:50:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=R0LwILojUFHfDnPICXJYjY7ZqunsMyeogNZOtQuSMFg=; b=Nd92pggoH5fbtYajbo24pdnBRGWqVakrPlK2JryaAb59xvpRb1QtOJ5JLRaGJh7XoX rtjJYCMl1Ekvou4y4toMwn3YhwSKqn1ZO97O/d9DudtRBIuhkChmedy9CQvbKviDlMn+ 9vtrAknkTmsn/yHz5DyxtaMYAjZp/0a0kFkafXh2T6yk5HFEe6/DKhCA3fw69asxN0z4 8kQk3l46Ii0NnZ6IbNy2LsBMe2gfIpbDv43UOEK4Nc94++Kg9vEf0YgFWd/CCQvZ+F1W aOGjmMe3i0nMmMhb+6fyY3D5c/Z2y6Eyt6f4gCX13MjEy+4Cf7+M4HUv40gRS4L2AHan boAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=R0LwILojUFHfDnPICXJYjY7ZqunsMyeogNZOtQuSMFg=; b=oREhCjzl64GeclXTw2x7Aj090+8RofqcTKozaW3PACZsFZBSAL9em6la2HdStTCzcc U5On6PqKJwyn67zz3szrg6PpBMXJMfZiYn9lafV1gYIYdE9OGMNGppBIqL2Gzsx6+0aO jE8gXLD4IZf/s9XxAB8/Zo8b4Y92qxU5+m+rLkfw02Rq2X3FKSMTIktxznSViC8HR1Aj C3FZQqKCDi10qV46DQte9Nn/wnjnKz39F/NwtXSptUZewFfJZNwhJwKButJ/u2yseMvf OY6ywkttso0fkBlJKtFGr50n1q10MkmeVQP24OT3PoMj92Q/29pYtuEmNSd/k0QOfGlF KLiA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ02zFOfgYUCpPVklmXA6Z64E6yMcGvjY6DDsBfLxGGmIRqYfVox XA17OvW5J0ohXpVmg6UvbpzI/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vsXGOeFIpqJL+wg5jjgV7c3N5hQd2Qs9hftlqPMXPZrh4Px1iW2CzHs2SO3/m26NcgKO+H6xg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:252b:: with SMTP id j40mr767413pje.189.1584989428145; Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from google.com ([2620:15c:2ce:0:231c:11cc:aa0a:6dc5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y131sm14207652pfb.78.2020.03.23.11.50.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:50:21 -0700 From: Emily Shaffer To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/5] bugreport: add tool to generate debugging info Message-ID: <20200323185021.GC45325@google.com> References: <20200302230400.107428-1-emilyshaffer@google.com> <20200302230400.107428-3-emilyshaffer@google.com> <20200319213902.GB45325@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:42:36PM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi Emily, > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Emily Shaffer wrote: > > I'll hold off on sharing my own preference until after we've got some > > benchmarking to look at, so I can understand the whole picture. > > Why? Why not strong-arm your preference? Junio and I are not shy doing the > same, and those are _your_ patches. Junio is clearly not interested in the > command at all, but you are clearly interested in it [*1*]. You should > have more than just the final say over this. We are different people, and we approach problems and disagreements differently. I am almost never the type to strong-arm my preference; I'd rather listen to other arguments and look at data, which is why I proposed the experiments I mentioned here. As for you and Junio not being shy, as you put it, I found most of the discussion offputting, and the tone used absolutely contributed to me finding other things to work on instead of coming back to this minefield sooner. - Emily