From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA2F1F464 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727310AbfK0UZc (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:25:32 -0500 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:60338 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727010AbfK0UZc (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:25:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65B61F463; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:25:31 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Git at SFC , Jeff King , Derrick Stolee Subject: Re: This list is now also archived on lore.kernel.org/git Message-ID: <20191127202531.GA12201@dcvr> References: <20191120154347.x6w4v7cdzy4yrx6q@chatter.i7.local> <20191120195556.GA25189@dcvr> <87woblnxnc.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87woblnxnc.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20 2019, Eric Wong wrote: > > Yup, .org TLD renewal costs will likely go up and I won't pay > > higher costs to keep .org domains. > > > > The system running public-inbox.org (and the recommended > > onions(*)) will stay running and will have bleeding edge > > code on it. > > > > > > * Accessible via Tor, no need to depend on registrars: > > http://hjrcffqmbrq6wope.onion/ > > http://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/ > > http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion/ > > I think it would make sense for the Git SFC arm of things[1] to consider > taking over the public-inbox.org domain rather than letting it expire > (of course contingent on your approval) and turning it into a CNAME (or > other redirect) for lore.kernel.org. There's also https://public-inbox.org/meta/ and other (FLOSS-related) mirrors and the root landing page itself. > We have a lot of mailing list and some (~130 commits) git.git commit > references to that domain. It seems like a worthwhile expense to me to > pay for the renewal of it rather than having it turn into e.g. some spam > landing page as the registration expires. One feature I'd like to see in public-inbox and even git porcelain and web viewers is the ability to rewrite URLs on the client-side, similar to .mailmap. It would make sense they all share the same configuration. > 1. Disclaimer: I'm one of the people who'd vote on making that decision > if it came to that, but this E-Mail is, as they say, just like, my > opinion, man :) Fwiw, I intentionally keep the branding of the public-inbox project weak (no trademarks, logos, real homepage) because I believe strong branding and consolidation of influence/identity leads to centralization. It's easier to fork projects when there's no logos, trademarks or other branding to deal with. I also believe the term "public inbox" is a much more powerful idea than any project could be. To that end, I'm happy SourceHut (and maybe others) also use that term. The "public-inbox" project is just one cheapskate's anti-consumerist interpretation of that idea :> I pretty much say whatever I can to sabotage my own credibility as a result. I'm also shy and introverted, so branding and good marketing does not compute :P