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From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Git at SFC <git@sfconservancy.org>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: This list is now also archived on lore.kernel.org/git
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:25:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191127202531.GA12201@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87woblnxnc.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20 2019, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Yup,  .org TLD renewal costs will likely go up and I won't pay
> > higher costs to keep .org domains.
> >
> > The system running public-inbox.org (and the recommended
> > onions(*)) will stay running and will have bleeding edge
> > code on it.
> >
> >
> > * Accessible via Tor, no need to depend on registrars:
> >   http://hjrcffqmbrq6wope.onion/
> >   http://ou63pmih66umazou.onion/
> >   http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion/
> 
> I think it would make sense for the Git SFC arm of things[1] to consider
> taking over the public-inbox.org domain rather than letting it expire
> (of course contingent on your approval) and turning it into a CNAME (or
> other redirect) for lore.kernel.org.

There's also https://public-inbox.org/meta/ and other (FLOSS-related)
mirrors and the root landing page itself.

> We have a lot of mailing list and some (~130 commits) git.git commit
> references to that domain. It seems like a worthwhile expense to me to
> pay for the renewal of it rather than having it turn into e.g. some spam
> landing page as the registration expires.

One feature I'd like to see in public-inbox and even git
porcelain and web viewers is the ability to rewrite URLs on the
client-side, similar to .mailmap.  It would make sense they all
share the same configuration.

> 1. Disclaimer: I'm one of the people who'd vote on making that decision
>    if it came to that, but this E-Mail is, as they say, just like, my
>    opinion, man :)

Fwiw, I intentionally keep the branding of the public-inbox
project weak (no trademarks, logos, real homepage) because I
believe strong branding and consolidation of influence/identity
leads to centralization.  It's easier to fork projects when
there's no logos, trademarks or other branding to deal with.

I also believe the term "public inbox" is a much more powerful
idea than any project could be.  To that end, I'm happy
SourceHut (and maybe others) also use that term.  The
"public-inbox" project is just one cheapskate's anti-consumerist
interpretation of that idea :>

I pretty much say whatever I can to sabotage my own credibility
as a result.  I'm also shy and introverted, so branding and good
marketing does not compute :P

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-20 15:43 This list is now also archived on lore.kernel.org/git Konstantin Ryabitsev
2019-11-20 19:55 ` Eric Wong
2019-11-27 15:31   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-11-27 16:18     ` Jeff King
2019-11-27 20:25     ` Eric Wong [this message]
2019-11-27 12:52 ` Jeff King
2019-11-27 12:53   ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: recommend lore.kernel.org over public-inbox.org Jeff King
2019-11-27 12:59     ` Eric Wong
2019-11-27 20:00       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-27 20:04         ` Eric Wong
2019-11-28 10:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-28 19:48             ` Eric Wong
2019-11-28 22:17               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-28 22:31                 ` Eric Wong
2019-11-29  9:32                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-29  9:59                     ` Eric Wong
2019-11-27 12:54   ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: replace public-inbox links with lore.kernel.org Jeff King
2019-11-27 14:37     ` Derrick Stolee
2019-11-27 19:28   ` [PATCH 0/2] Hi Peff, Denton Liu
2019-11-27 19:28     ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: replace MARC links with LKML Denton Liu
2019-11-27 19:28     ` [PATCH 2/2] RelNotes: replace Gmane with real Message-IDs Denton Liu
2019-11-28  0:16       ` Denton Liu
2019-11-30 17:14     ` [PATCH 0/2] Hi Peff, Junio C Hamano
2019-12-02 19:26     ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Doc: replace opaque mail archive links with lore.kernel.org Denton Liu
2019-12-02 19:26       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] doc: replace MARC " Denton Liu
2019-12-02 19:26       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] RelNotes: replace Gmane with real Message-IDs Denton Liu
2019-12-02 19:26       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] doc: replace LKML link with lore.kernel.org Denton Liu
2019-12-04 18:28       ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Doc: replace opaque mail archive links " Junio C Hamano

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