From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332451F464 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726729AbfKWARu (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:17:50 -0500 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:35244 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726089AbfKWARu (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:17:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFCC1F463; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 00:17:49 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: Emily Shaffer Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Announcing git-mentoring@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <20191123001749.GA12923@dcvr> References: <20191114194708.GD60198@google.com> <20191122203127.GA5292@dcvr> <20191122231921.GB101478@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191122231921.GB101478@google.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Emily Shaffer wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 08:31:27PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote: > > Emily Shaffer wrote: > > > The community expectations for the mailing list are the same as those > > > for the main Git list, but posts are only visible to members (anyone can > > > join) in order to create a more private space for beginner questions. > > > > It would be better to promote anonymous or pseudonymous posts > > if beginners aren't comfortable... > > > > > For now, posting is limited to members only (again, anyone can join) - > > > but if we find a high incidence of needing to forward messages to and > > > from the main list, we can change that permission as needed. > > > > ...because anybody can expose the archives, anyways. And right now, > > messages aren't visible to generic search engines, either; so fewer > > people can get helped... > > Hm, this is a little circular, right? Part of the rationale for keeping > viewing limited was "that way it's not visible to generic search > engines". Sorry if I wasn't clear. My points were: 1) limiting visibility harmful to helpfulness 2) trusting "members" to keep potentially embarrasing posts away from the public eye is unrealistic. Let posters maintain anonymity or pseudonymity for themselves.