From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1E81F4C1 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726796AbfJKF63 (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 01:58:29 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([104.130.231.41]:45348 "HELO cloud.peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1726174AbfJKF63 (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 01:58:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 13097 invoked by uid 109); 11 Oct 2019 05:58:29 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with SMTP; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:58:29 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 30284 invoked by uid 111); 11 Oct 2019 06:01:23 -0000 Received: from sigill.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.7) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 02:01:23 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 01:58:28 -0400 From: Jeff King To: Eric Wong Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org, Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: Raise your hand to Ack jk/code-of-conduct if your Ack fell thru cracks Message-ID: <20191011055827.GA20094@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20191010001853.h2pepvg7yilevipv@dcvr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20191010001853.h2pepvg7yilevipv@dcvr> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:18:53AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote: > > The project leadership team can be contacted by email as a whole at > > git@sfconservancy.org, or individually: > > > > - Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > > - Christian Couder > > - Jeff King > > - Junio C Hamano > > All folks that have proven to exhibit good judgement in the past, > and hope they continue to exhibit that in the future. I snipped your concerns with some of the language. I do agree with you that a lot of is open to interpretation. But I also think it's impossible to get it 100% airtight. My feeling was that it was a good idea to go with some existing, well-established text, even if it has some wiggle room. And then rely on the existing community and especially the people listed above to do that interpretation. So... > Just pointing out some concerns of mine. No ack from me > (but it's not a NACK, either). I'm pretty ambivalent... For me it is obviously an ack, but I wanted to make clear that I think your concerns (and those of others who spoke up, like René and Gábor) are certainly _valid_. I just think that adopting this CoC is, while not perfect, the least-bad option. I'd also say that we might consider living with it for a while (6 months? a year?) and seeing if people have an interest in revising it after that point based on experience. This is the same text used by the kernel, btw. I think somebody mentioned to me (but I think it may have been off-list) that the kernel has an "interpretation" document: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.html which clarifies a few terms with respect to that specific community. I didn't feel that we particularly needed to do that for our community, but if somebody wants to work up a clarifying document, I'd be happy to review it. -Peff