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From: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git in Outreachy December 2019?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:42:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190916184208.GB17913@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190913205148.GA8799@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 04:51:49PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 01:03:17PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> > > Do we have interested mentors for the next round of Outreachy?
> > > 
> > > The deadline for Git to apply to the program is September 5th. The
> > > deadline for mentors to have submitted project descriptions is September
> > > 24th. Intern applications would start on October 1st.
> > > 
> > > If there are mentors who want to participate, I can handle the project
> > > application and can start asking around for funding.
> > 
> > I probably should have replied earlier, but if Git has applied to the
> > program, feel free to include me as a mentor.
> 
> Great!  See my followup here:
> 
>   https://public-inbox.org/git/20190904194114.GA31398@sigill.intra.peff.net/
> 
> Prospective mentors need to sign up on that site, and should propose a
> project they'd be willing to mentor.
> 
> > There was a discussion about mentors/co-mentors possibly working in a
> > part of a codebase that they are not familiar with [1] - firstly, I
> > think that's possible and even likely for most of us. :-) If any
> > question arises, maybe it would be sufficient for the mentors to just
> > help formulate the question (or pose the question themselves) to the
> > mailing list. If "[Outreachy]" appears in the subject, I'll make it a
> > higher priority for myself to answer those.
> 
> I do think it's OK for mentors to not be intimately familiar with the
> part of the code that is being touched, as long as the project is simple
> enough that they can pick up the technical details easily as-needed. A
> lot of what mentors will help mentees with is the overall process (both
> Git-specific parts, but also more general development issues). But I
> think the proposed projects do need to be feasible.
> 
> I'm happy to discuss possible projects if anybody has an idea but isn't
> sure how to develop it into a proposal.

Hi Peff,

Jonathan Tan, Jonathan Nieder, Josh Steadmon and I met on Friday to talk
about projects and we came up with a trimmed list; not sure what more
needs to be done to make them into fully-fledged proposals.

For starter microprojects, we came up with:

 - cleanup a test script (although we need to identify particularly
   which ones and what counts as "clean")
 - moving doc from documentation/technical/api-* to comments in the
   appropriate header instead
 - teach a command which currently handles its own argv how to use
   parse-options instead
 - add a user.timezone option which Git can use if present rather than
   checking system local time

For the longer projects, we came up with a few more:

 - find places where we can pass in the_repository as arg instead of
   using global the_repository
 - convert sh/pl commands to C, including:
   - git-submodules.sh
   - git-bisect.sh
   - rebase --preserve-merges
   - add -i
   (We were afraid this might be too boring, though.)
 - reduce/eliminate use of fetch_if_missing global
 - create a better difftool/mergetool for format of choice (this one
   ends up existing outside of the Git codebase, but still may be pretty
   adjacent and big impact)
 - training wheels/intro/tutorial mode? (We thought it may be useful to
   make available a very basic "I just want to make a single PR and not
   learn graph theory" mode, toggled by config switch)
 - "did you mean?" for common use cases, e.g. commit with a dirty
   working tree and no staged files - either offer a hint or offer a
   prompt to continue ("Stage changed files and commit? [Y/n]")
 - new `git partial-clone` command to interactively set a filter,
   configure other partial clone settings
 - add progress bars in various situations
 - add a TUI to deal more easily with the mailing list. Jonathan Tan has
   a strong idea of what this TUI would do... This one would also end up
   external but adjacent to the Git codebase.
 - try and make progress towards running many tests from a single test
   file in parallel - maybe this is too big, I'm not sure if we know how
   many of our tests are order-dependent within a file for now...

It might make sense to only focus on scoping the ones we feel most
interested in. We came up with a pretty big list because we had some
other programs in mind, so I suppose it's not necessary to develop all
of them for this program.

 - Emily

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-16 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27  5:17 Jeff King
2019-08-31  7:58 ` Christian Couder
2019-08-31 19:44   ` Olga Telezhnaya
2019-09-04 19:41 ` Jeff King
2019-09-05  7:24   ` Christian Couder
2019-09-05 19:39   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-06 11:55     ` Carlo Arenas
2019-09-07  6:39       ` Jeff King
2019-09-07 10:13         ` Carlo Arenas
2019-09-07  6:36     ` Jeff King
2019-09-08 14:56   ` Pratyush Yadav
2019-09-09 17:00     ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 18:07   ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-26  9:47     ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-26 19:32       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-26 21:54         ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-26 11:42     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-13 20:03 ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-13 20:51   ` Jeff King
2019-09-16 18:42     ` Emily Shaffer [this message]
2019-09-16 21:33       ` Eric Wong
2019-09-16 21:44       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-16 23:13         ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-09-17  0:59           ` Jeff King
2019-09-17 11:23       ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-17 12:02         ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-23 12:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-23 16:58             ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-26 11:04               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-26 13:28                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-26 19:39                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-26 21:44                     ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-27 22:18                       ` Jeff King
2019-10-09 17:25                         ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-10-11  6:34                           ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 18:19             ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 14:30               ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-17 15:10         ` Christian Couder
2019-09-23 12:50           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-23 19:30           ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 18:07         ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 14:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-24 15:33             ` Jeff King
2019-09-28  3:56               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-09-24  0:55         ` Eric Wong
2019-09-26 12:45           ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-30  8:55             ` Eric Wong
2019-09-28  4:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-09-20 17:04     ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-21  1:47       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-23 14:23         ` Christian Couder
2019-09-23 19:40         ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 22:29           ` Philip Oakley
2019-10-22 21:16         ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-23 11:49       ` Christian Couder
2019-09-23 17:58         ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-23 19:27           ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 20:48             ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-23 19:15       ` Jeff King
2019-09-23 20:38         ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-23 21:28           ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 17:07             ` Jonathan Tan
2019-09-26  7:09               ` Jeff King

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