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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] git.c: show usage for accessing the git(1) help page
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:53:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515015331.GC13255@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190515001717.GA138048@google.com>

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 05:17:17PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote:

> >  const char git_more_info_string[] =
> >  	N_("'git help -a' and 'git help -g' list available subcommands and some\n"
> >  	   "concept guides. See 'git help <command>' or 'git help <concept>'\n"
> > -	   "to read about a specific subcommand or concept.");
> > +	   "to read about a specific subcommand or concept. Or use 'git help git'.");
> 
> I'm not sure the wording makes sense here. It sounds like you're saying,
> "Or use 'git help git' to read about specific subcommands or concepts."
> which isn't really what I think you're trying to say.
> 
> What about, "Or, use 'git help git' for a detailed guide of the Git
> system as a whole."

I had a similar reaction on reading Philip's patch. I think your
suggestion is better. We could even shorten it to just:

  Use 'git help git' for an overview of the system.

Looking at "git help git" I actually think the DESCRIPTION section could
do a better job of being a first entry-point for new readers of the
documentation. But I don't think that needs to be a blocker for what
we're discussing here.

> (I'm still not sure that's quite it - since `git help git` mostly
> details the flags you can pass to git before invoking a subcommand. But
> I'm not sure that `git --help` is the place to say that...)

Yeah, I almost suggested something like:

  Use 'git help git' for options and environment variables that affect
  all subcommands.

I'm not sure if that points people in a useful direction, or if it is
getting too much into the weeds (again, probably the description section
of git(1) could talk about how to find which documentation where.

I also think it should point to git-scm.com for the hyper-linked
documentation, since it's less ugly than the stuff at git.github.io, but
that's really getting off-topic. :)

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-13 20:47 git --help not actually showing the git(1) help page Philip Oakley
2019-05-13 20:53 ` Jeff King
2019-05-13 21:55   ` Philip Oakley
2019-05-13 22:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-14 14:05       ` Philip Oakley
2019-05-14 15:24         ` [PATCH] git.c: show usage for accessing " Philip Oakley
2019-05-15  0:17           ` Emily Shaffer
2019-05-15  1:53             ` Jeff King [this message]
2019-05-15  6:43               ` Philip Oakley
2019-05-15  8:11                 ` [PATCH v2] " Philip Oakley
2019-05-15  8:14                   ` Eric Sunshine
2019-05-15 22:47                     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Philip Oakley
2019-05-15 22:47                       ` [PATCH v3 1/2] git.c: show usage for " Philip Oakley
2019-05-15 22:47                       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Doc: git.txt: remove backticks from link and add git-scm.com/docs Philip Oakley
2019-05-16  1:56                         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-16 11:25                           ` Philip Oakley
2019-05-16 22:22                             ` Jeff King
2019-05-16 23:09                               ` Philip Oakley
2019-05-15  6:36             ` [PATCH] git.c: show usage for accessing the git(1) help page Philip Oakley

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