From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CF51F453 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726137AbeI2AOl (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:14:41 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f196.google.com ([209.85.210.196]:36650 "EHLO mail-pf1-f196.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726100AbeI2AOl (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:14:41 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f196.google.com with SMTP id b7-v6so4814597pfo.3 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ttaylorr-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=PGa9RM692nW/KD2W9T/Hl+SATa1DuWAEqfA8F1mJOaU=; b=bccrvYVd6DKf1LrUbodBQ+XGuiyesjZFgrlr6vYi96Mw6vlKMkAMdf6ffEbv71Aw93 w6hcFER9aKW2Ka8uJ4MHierv9FRKzZD6Ramwny+R3RRRVISGrx8CSXoLiU5yjzoT2v47 sGGsM4L96BuL6ECh4fj2EPWkbmL5Tf6BNsC/629J6m+yToH14YnxlOVjRieFv3+dWhNO 6g8pNd3vQ+21xDtqTtkWanNm8gGEtyHbj7cH6eORdP3f7d1EJ+WEflDMBc4oSzPmVbLu cIStoqgHc/t01PpeU18v0ao72bIvAZDh1ZyAaC4O3+lBwLATB1Y1RgBDTTLQgiJ3lNa+ pztA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=PGa9RM692nW/KD2W9T/Hl+SATa1DuWAEqfA8F1mJOaU=; b=XsEkT3fOVtK1+0HHVdjobgXmEpiCJFEDDEKZZ0CPnTBhkX+PqM3PFmaAB+WjOqLsgb GCP+CyY4wCJHyOPfhhcZG4alD6av8YLK1/Y+waBggw0NnT2U6XBld5p7f30Ru578tDj5 ook5Li5HzZOUVbvHo/jP7onWadKpt5vbMQoYezdWfuU2NeHuCGP+IcxXFPJ3dO4IeVox /wVp/3RyYXzH7P7+oNLi1Vyh++Wtk1FfsGvhk21MbwAWkBHQPrYXTTEXafTXEXxQL5H7 bLt97ZhXrt3tU/KSS/XC6pSkDp16437xQp6KqcMt9e9fmh6nAwSjLxGsG5rUU8FxPDGs +f/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogKC3JChmrqnfLeLig7w5h+wgFrmPqTy8OGAFuUWO0gUw6/HLFY Ibyc2uWqNU848cgpDN1aT3sgUw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63Dc341MGxuCH6Thl1/19ZRB+bnFB6bFM2i2HXjXTzW83cwOAVd0BoFZK1oAvoLVM/HEkNBeg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:d946:: with SMTP id e6-v6mr6870990pgj.24.1538156988571; Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([205.175.107.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a15-v6sm9411291pfe.32.2018.09.28.10.49.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:49:46 -0700 From: Taylor Blau To: Junio C Hamano Cc: Taylor Blau , Duy Nguyen , Jeff King , Git Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH] git help: promote 'git help -av' Message-ID: <20180928174946.GE23652@syl> References: <20180922174707.16498-1-pclouds@gmail.com> <20180924181927.GB25341@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20180925174451.GA29454@duynguyen.home> <20180928023724.GA89283@syl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 09:30:51AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Taylor Blau writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:28:31AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > >> Duy Nguyen writes: > >> > >> > Here's the patch that adds that external commands and aliases > >> > sections. I feel that external commands section is definitely good to > >> > have even if we don't replace "help -a". Aliases are more > >> > subjective... > >> > >> I didn't apply this (so I didn't try running it), but a quick > >> eyeballing tells me that the listing of external commands in -av > >> output done in this patch seems reasonable. > >> > >> I do not think removing "-v" and making the current "help -a" output > >> unavailable is a wise idea, though. > > > > I think that your point about having to react in a split-second in order > > to ^C before we open the manual page for a command is a good one. So, I > > agree with this. > > Responding to a wrong thread? Ah, I certainly am. Thanks for catching my mistake :-). > I thought "now I need ^C within a handful of deciseconds if I want > only alias?" was not about the change to make "-v" default when > "help -a" is asked, but about what to do with "git foo --help" that > only gives "foo is aliased to ...". Thanks, Taylor