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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jeff Hostetler" <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	pawelparuzel95@gmail.com,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:44:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180809214430.GE11342@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BHiB_gR-dQbpJtSBYPJ5Om4Mv0ymnZFNocyTfbUotyBgw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:40:58PM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:

> > I worry that the false positives make this a non-starter.  I mean, if
> > clone creates files 'A' and 'B' (both equal) and then tries to create
> > 'b', would the collision code reports that 'b' collided with 'A' because
> > that was the first OID match?  Ideally with this scheme we'd have to
> > search the entire index prior to 'b' and then report that 'b' collided
> > with either 'A' or 'B'.  Neither message instills confidence.  And
> > there's no way to prefer answer 'B' over 'A' without using knowledge
> > of the FS name mangling/aliasing rules -- unless we want to just assume
> > ignore-case for this iteration.
> 
> A possibly crazy idea: Don't bother reporting the other filename; just
> report the OID instead.
> 
> "Error: Foo.txt cannot be checked out because another file with hash
> <whatever> is in the way."  Maybe even add a hint for the user: "Run
> `git ls-files -s` to see see all files and their hash".
> 
> Whatever the exact wording for the error message, just create a nice
> post on stackoverflow.com explaining the various weird filesystems out
> there (VFAT, NTFS, HFS, APFS, etc) and how they cause differing
> filenames to be written to the same location.  Have a bunch of folks
> vote it up so it has some nice search-engine juice.

Actually, I kind of like the simplicity of that. It puts the human brain
in the loop.

> The error message isn't quite as good, but does the user really need
> all the names of the file?  If so, we gave them enough information to
> figure it out, and this is a really unusual case anyway, right?
> Besides, now we're back to linear performance....

Well, it's still quadratic when they run O(n) iterations of "git
ls-files -s | grep $colliding_oid". You've just pushed the second linear
search onto the user. ;)

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-27  9:59 Git clone and case sensitivity Paweł Paruzel
2018-07-27 20:59 ` brian m. carlson
2018-07-28  4:36   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  4:45     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  4:48       ` Jeff King
2018-07-28  5:11         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-28  9:48           ` Simon Ruderich
2018-07-28  9:56           ` Jeff King
2018-07-28 18:05             ` brian m. carlson
2018-07-29  5:26             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-29  9:28               ` Jeff King
2018-07-30 15:27                 ` [PATCH/RFC] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-07-31 18:23                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-01 15:25                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-31 18:44                   ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-31 19:12                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31 19:29                       ` Jeff King
2018-07-31 20:12                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31 20:37                           ` Jeff King
2018-07-31 20:57                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-01 21:20                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 14:43                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-02 16:27                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 19:06                                     ` Jeff King
2018-08-02 21:14                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-02 21:28                                         ` Jeff King
2018-08-03 18:23                                           ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-03 18:49                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-03 18:53                                             ` Jeff King
2018-08-05 14:01                                               ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-03 14:28                                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-01 15:21                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-31 19:13                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-01 15:16                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-07 19:01                   ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-07 19:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-08 19:48                       ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-08 22:31                         ` Jeff King
2018-08-09  0:41                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-09 14:23                             ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 21:14                               ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-09 21:34                                 ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 21:40                                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 21:44                                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2018-08-09 21:53                                     ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 21:59                                       ` Jeff King
2018-08-09 23:05                                         ` Elijah Newren
2018-08-09 22:07                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-10 15:36                     ` [PATCH v3 0/1] clone: warn on colidding entries on checkout Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-10 15:36                       ` [PATCH v3 1/1] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-10 16:42                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-11 10:09                         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-08-11 13:16                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-13 16:55                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-13 17:12                               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-10 16:12                       ` [PATCH v3 0/1] clone: warn on colidding entries on checkout Junio C Hamano
2018-08-12  9:07                       ` [PATCH v4] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-13 15:32                         ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-08-13 17:18                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-15 19:08                         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-15 19:35                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 15:56                             ` [PATCH] config.txt: clarify core.checkStat = minimal Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-16 17:01                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-16 18:19                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 22:29                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 15:26                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 15:29                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-15 19:38                           ` [PATCH v4] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Junio C Hamano
2018-08-16 14:03                             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-08-16 15:42                               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-16 16:23                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 16:16                         ` [PATCH v5] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-08-17 17:20                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-17 18:00                             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-08-17 19:46                           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-19  8:20                           ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2018-11-19 12:28                             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2018-11-19 17:14                               ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-19 18:24                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:03                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:04                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 21:17                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-19 23:29                                     ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-19 23:54                                       ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-20  1:05                                         ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-20  2:22                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 16:28                                       ` [PATCH] clone: fix colliding file detection on APFS Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-20 19:20                                         ` Ramsay Jones
2018-11-20 19:35                                         ` Carlo Arenas
2018-11-20 19:38                                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-22 17:59                                         ` [PATCH v1 1/1] t5601-99: Enable colliding file detection for MINGW tboegi
2018-11-22 20:16                                           ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2018-11-23 11:24                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-19 17:21                               ` [PATCH v5] clone: report duplicate entries on case-insensitive filesystems Ramsay Jones
2018-11-19 19:39                                 ` Carlo Arenas
2018-07-31 19:39                 ` Git clone and case sensitivity Jeff Hostetler

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