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From: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:32:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619173250.GA199585@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180615190458.147775-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

On 06/15, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> (replying to the original since my e-mail is about design)
> 
> > This version of ref-in-want is a bit more restrictive than what Jonathan
> > originally proposed (only full ref names are allowed instead of globs
> > and OIDs), but it is meant to accomplish the same goal (solve the issues
> > of refs changing during negotiation).
> 
> One question remains: are we planning to expand this feature (e.g. to
> support patterns ending in *, or to support any pattern that can appear
> on the LHS of a refspec), and if yes, are we OK with having 2 or more
> versions of the service in the wild, each having different pattern
> support?
> 
> Supporting patterns would mean that we would possibly be able to
> eliminate the ls-refs step, thus saving at least a RTT. (Originally I
> thought that supporting patterns would also allow us to tolerate refs
> being removed during the fetch process, but I see that this is already
> handled by the server ignoring "want-ref <ref>" wherein <ref> doesn't
> exist on the server.)
> 
> However, after some in-office discussion, I see that eliminating the
> ls-refs step means that we lose some optimizations that can only be done
> when we see that we already have a sought remote ref. For example, in a
> repo like this:
> 
>  A
>  |
>  O
>  |
>  O B C
>  |/ /
>  O O
>  |/
>  O
> 
> in which we have rarely-updated branches that we still want to fetch
> (e.g. an annotated tag when we fetch refs/tags/* or a Gerrit
> refs/changes/* branch), having the ref advertisement first means that we
> can omit them from our "want" or "want-ref" list. But not having them
> means that we send "want-ref refs/tags/*" to the server, and during
> negotiation inform the server of our master branch (A), and since the
> server knows of a common ancestor of all our wants (A, B, C), it will
> terminate the negotiation and send the objects specific to branches B
> and C even though it didn't need to.
> 
> So maybe we still need to keep the ls-refs step around, and thus, this
> design of only accepting exact refs is perhaps good enough for now.

I think that taking a smaller step first it probably better.  This is
something that we've done in the past with the shallow features and
later capabilities were added to add different ways to request shallow
fetches.

That being said, if we find that this feature doesn't work as-is and
needs the extra complexity of patterns from the start then they should
be added.  But it doesn't seem like there's a concrete reason at the
moment.

-- 
Brandon Williams

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-05 17:51 [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 19:11   ` Ramsay Jones
2018-06-05 20:32   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 21:32     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-06 22:42       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 22:45         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 18:09     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 19:21       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 18:40     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 18:52       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-15 21:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-15 21:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-19 18:50       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-19 20:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-19 23:14           ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-21 16:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:23     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:32     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:42     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 23:59     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-19 17:41       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:56     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 21:18       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 22:29         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-15 21:20   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-in-want Junio C Hamano
2018-06-18 18:05     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32   ` [PATCH v3 " Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 21:12       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 17:40       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:09       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:20         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 17:45       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 21:26       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-22 21:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:03       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:18         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 23:01       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-25 18:08         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 22:27         ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 22:36         ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 23:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/8] ref-in-want Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54       ` [PATCH v5 " Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:05             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 18:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 20:46                 ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 20:59                   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-27 18:06             ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:09             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 17:58           ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:15             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 18:09           ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-27 18:18             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30         ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-07-22  9:20             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-23 17:53               ` Brandon Williams
2018-07-23 18:13                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-23 21:28                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-23 17:56               ` [PATCH] fetch-pack: mark die strings for translation Brandon Williams
2018-07-23 18:14                 ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-23 21:29                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-23 22:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-23 22:59                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-23 23:00                     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-15 19:04 ` [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want Jonathan Tan
2018-06-19 17:32   ` Brandon Williams [this message]
2018-06-19 19:23     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-19 23:16   ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-19 23:38     ` Jonathan Tan

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