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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: bmwill@google.com
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 12:04:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180615190458.147775-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180605175144.4225-1-bmwill@google.com>

(replying to the original since my e-mail is about design)

> This version of ref-in-want is a bit more restrictive than what Jonathan
> originally proposed (only full ref names are allowed instead of globs
> and OIDs), but it is meant to accomplish the same goal (solve the issues
> of refs changing during negotiation).

One question remains: are we planning to expand this feature (e.g. to
support patterns ending in *, or to support any pattern that can appear
on the LHS of a refspec), and if yes, are we OK with having 2 or more
versions of the service in the wild, each having different pattern
support?

Supporting patterns would mean that we would possibly be able to
eliminate the ls-refs step, thus saving at least a RTT. (Originally I
thought that supporting patterns would also allow us to tolerate refs
being removed during the fetch process, but I see that this is already
handled by the server ignoring "want-ref <ref>" wherein <ref> doesn't
exist on the server.)

However, after some in-office discussion, I see that eliminating the
ls-refs step means that we lose some optimizations that can only be done
when we see that we already have a sought remote ref. For example, in a
repo like this:

 A
 |
 O
 |
 O B C
 |/ /
 O O
 |/
 O

in which we have rarely-updated branches that we still want to fetch
(e.g. an annotated tag when we fetch refs/tags/* or a Gerrit
refs/changes/* branch), having the ref advertisement first means that we
can omit them from our "want" or "want-ref" list. But not having them
means that we send "want-ref refs/tags/*" to the server, and during
negotiation inform the server of our master branch (A), and since the
server knows of a common ancestor of all our wants (A, B, C), it will
terminate the negotiation and send the objects specific to branches B
and C even though it didn't need to.

So maybe we still need to keep the ls-refs step around, and thus, this
design of only accepting exact refs is perhaps good enough for now.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-05 17:51 [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 19:11   ` Ramsay Jones
2018-06-05 20:32   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 21:32     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-06 22:42       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 22:45         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-05 17:51 ` [PATCH 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 18:09     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 19:21       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 18:40     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 18:52       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-15 21:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-15 21:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-19 18:50       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-19 20:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-19 23:14           ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-21 16:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:23     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:32     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:42     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 23:59     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-19 17:41       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-13 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-14 19:56     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-14 21:18       ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 22:29         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-15 21:20   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ref-in-want Junio C Hamano
2018-06-18 18:05     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32   ` [PATCH v3 " Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 21:12       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 17:40       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:09       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:20         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 17:45       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 21:26       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-22 21:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:03       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:18         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-20 21:32     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-22 23:01       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-25 18:08         ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53     ` [PATCH v4 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 22:27         ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 22:36         ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 18:53       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-25 23:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/8] ref-in-want Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54       ` [PATCH v5 " Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:05             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 18:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 20:46                 ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 20:59                   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-27 18:06             ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:09             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 17:58           ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 21:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-27 18:15             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-26 20:54         ` [PATCH v5 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 18:09           ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-27 18:18             ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30         ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 1/8] test-pkt-line: add unpack-sideband subcommand Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 2/8] upload-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 3/8] upload-pack: test negotiation with changing repository Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 4/8] fetch: refactor the population of peer ref OIDs Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 5/8] fetch: refactor fetch_refs into two functions Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 6/8] fetch: refactor to make function args narrower Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 7/8] fetch-pack: put shallow info in output parameter Brandon Williams
2018-06-27 22:30           ` [PATCH v6 8/8] fetch-pack: implement ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-07-22  9:20             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-23 17:53               ` Brandon Williams
2018-07-23 18:13                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-23 21:28                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-23 17:56               ` [PATCH] fetch-pack: mark die strings for translation Brandon Williams
2018-07-23 18:14                 ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-23 21:29                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-23 22:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-23 22:59                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-23 23:00                     ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-15 19:04 ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2018-06-19 17:32   ` [PATCH 0/8] ref-in-want Brandon Williams
2018-06-19 19:23     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-19 23:16   ` Brandon Williams
2018-06-19 23:38     ` Jonathan Tan

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