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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Peter Backes <rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>
Cc: "David Lang" <david@lang.hm>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GDPR compliance best practices?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:12:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613141218.GA28384@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180612191219.GA17935@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 09:12:19PM +0200, Peter Backes wrote:
> This incorrect claim is completely inverting the logic of Art. 17.
> 
> The logic is clarly that if ANY of lit (a) to (f) is satisfied, the 
> data must be deleted.
> 
> It is not necessary for ALL of them to be satisfied.
> 
> In particular, if the data is no longer necessary for the purpose for 
> which it was collected, then THAT ALONE is grounds for erasure ((1) 
> lit. a). It does not matter at all whether processing was consent-based 
> or whether such consent was withdrawn.

Sure, but given that you are the one trying to claim that people need
to do all sorts of extra development work (I don't see any patches
from you) and suffer performance degredation, the burden of proof is
on _you_ to show that this is a problem that github, et. al., are
likely run into.

In particular, keep in mind that distribution of open source code can
only be done under the terms of an open source license --- and a
license is a contract.  So in particular, your claim that the data is
no longer necessary (point a) is at the very least going to be subject
to dispute and is a legal question.  I can think of any number of ways
that this could considered necessary in order to assure open source
license compliance, the public interest in terms of allowing forking,
etc.

The bottom line is I'm sure the lawyers at github and Microsoft have
very carefully done their due diligence, and if they are concerned,
I'm sure we'll see patches from them, since after all, they would not
be interested in seeing the imperial European bureaucrats trying to
assess 4% of Microsoft's world-wide revenues --- that's $3.6 billion
dollars, by the way.  I'm sure if they think it's a concern, their
programmers will be right on it.

					- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 19:15 GDPR compliance best practices? Peter Backes
2018-04-17 21:38 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-17 23:25   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03  9:27   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 10:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 11:25       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 12:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 14:18           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 15:28             ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 17:46               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 18:18                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 19:11                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 19:24                     ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 20:07                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 20:52                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 21:03                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 22:16                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 13:47                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-04 18:22                                 ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 22:28                 ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 23:01                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 12:24                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07  1:38                 ` David Lang
2018-06-07  6:32                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 21:28                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07 22:34                       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 22:38                         ` David Lang
2018-06-07 23:21                           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 23:53                             ` David Lang
2018-06-08  6:16                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  7:42                                 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 11:58                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 18:51                                     ` David Lang
2018-06-12 18:56                                       ` David Lang
2018-06-12 19:12                                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-12 19:16                                           ` Martin Fick
2018-06-13 14:12                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-06-13 14:48                                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  2:53                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08  6:26                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  8:13                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 12:03                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:53                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 14:45                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08 16:02                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:09                               ` Johannes Sixt
2018-06-09 22:50                               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-10  1:41                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 17:54               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 19:48             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 20:24               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-08 23:00   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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