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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Peter Backes <rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>
Cc: "David Lang" <david@lang.hm>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GDPR compliance best practices?
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 22:53:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180608025313.GA12749@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180607232128.GA5879@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 01:21:29AM +0200, Peter Backes wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 03:38:49PM -0700, David Lang wrote:
> > > Again: The GDPR certainly allows you to keep a proof of copyright
> > > privately if you have it. However, it does not allow you to keep
> > > publishing it if someone exercises his right to be forgotten.
> > someone is granting the world the right to use the code and you are claiming
> > that the evidence that they have granted this right is illegal to have?
> 
> Hell no! Please read what I wrote:
> 
> - "allows you to keep a proof ... privately"
> - "However, it does not allow you to keep publishing it"

The problem is you've left undefined who is "you"?  With an open
source project, anyone who has contributed to open source project has
a copyright interest.  That hobbyist in German who submitted a patch?
They have a copyright interest.  That US Company based in Redmond,
Washington?  They own a copyright interest.  Huawei in China?  They
have a copyright interest.

So there is no "privately".  And "you" numbers in the thousands and
thousands of copyright holders of portions of the open source code.

And of course, that's the other thing you seem to fundamentally not
understand about how git works.  Every developer in the world working
on that open source project has their own copy.  There is
fundamentally no way that you can expunge that information from every
single git repository in the world.  You can remote a git note from a
single repository.  But that doesn't affect my copy of the repository
on my laptop.  And if I push that repository to my server, it git note
will be out there for the whole world to see.

So someone could *try* sending a public request to the entire world,
saying, "I am a European and I demand that you disassociate commit
DEADBEF12345 from my name".  They could try serving legal papers on
everyone.  But at this point, it's going to trigger something called
the "Streisand Effect".  If you haven't heard of it, I suggest you
look it up:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/67299/how-barbra-streisand-inspired-streisand-effect

Regards,

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-08  2:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 19:15 GDPR compliance best practices? Peter Backes
2018-04-17 21:38 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-17 23:25   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03  9:27   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 10:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 11:25       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 12:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 14:18           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 15:28             ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 17:46               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 18:18                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 19:11                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 19:24                     ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 20:07                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 20:52                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 21:03                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 22:16                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 13:47                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-04 18:22                                 ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 22:28                 ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 23:01                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 12:24                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07  1:38                 ` David Lang
2018-06-07  6:32                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 21:28                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07 22:34                       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 22:38                         ` David Lang
2018-06-07 23:21                           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 23:53                             ` David Lang
2018-06-08  6:16                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  7:42                                 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 11:58                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 18:51                                     ` David Lang
2018-06-12 18:56                                       ` David Lang
2018-06-12 19:12                                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-12 19:16                                           ` Martin Fick
2018-06-13 14:12                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-13 14:48                                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  2:53                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-06-08  6:26                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  8:13                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 12:03                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:53                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 14:45                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08 16:02                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:09                               ` Johannes Sixt
2018-06-09 22:50                               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-10  1:41                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 17:54               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 19:48             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 20:24               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-08 23:00   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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