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From: Peter Backes <rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>
To: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
Cc: "David Lang" <david@lang.hm>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GDPR compliance best practices?
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 00:34:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180607223442.GA5322@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EF5AC29192A4D179B6D8689ECB991CC@PhilipOakley>

On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 10:28:47PM +0100, Philip Oakley wrote:
> Some of Peter's fine distinctions may be technically valid, but that does
> not stop there being legal grounds. The proof of copyright is a legal
> grounds.

Again: The GDPR certainly allows you to keep a proof of copyright 
privately if you have it. However, it does not allow you to keep 
publishing it if someone exercises his right to be forgotten.

There is simply no justification for publishing against the explicit 
will of the subject, except for the rare circumstances where there are 
overriding legitimate grounds for doing so. I hardly see those for the 
average author entry in your everyday git repo. Such a justification is 
extremely fragile.

> Unfortunately once one gets into legal nitpicking the wording becomes
> tortuous and helps no-one.

That's not nitpicking. If what you say were true, the GDPR would be 
without any practical validity at all.

> If one starts from an absolute "right to be forgotten" perspective one can
> demand all evidence of wrong doing , or authority to do something, be
> forgotten. The GDPR has the right to retain such evidence.

Yes, but not to keep it published.

> I'll try and comment where I see the distinctions to be.

You're essentially repeating what you already said there.

> Publishing (the meta data) is *distinct* from having it.

Absolutely right. That is my point.

> You either start off public and stay public, or you start off private and
> stay there.

Nope. The GDPR says you have to go from public to private if the 
subject wishes so and there are no overriding legitimate grounds.

That is the entire purpose of the GDPR's right to be forgotten.

Best wishes
Peter

-- 
Peter Backes, rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 19:15 GDPR compliance best practices? Peter Backes
2018-04-17 21:38 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-17 23:25   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03  9:27   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 10:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 11:25       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 12:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 14:18           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 15:28             ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 17:46               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 18:18                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 19:11                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 19:24                     ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 20:07                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 20:52                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 21:03                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 22:16                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 13:47                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-04 18:22                                 ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 22:28                 ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 23:01                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 12:24                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07  1:38                 ` David Lang
2018-06-07  6:32                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 21:28                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07 22:34                       ` Peter Backes [this message]
2018-06-07 22:38                         ` David Lang
2018-06-07 23:21                           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 23:53                             ` David Lang
2018-06-08  6:16                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  7:42                                 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 11:58                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 18:51                                     ` David Lang
2018-06-12 18:56                                       ` David Lang
2018-06-12 19:12                                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-12 19:16                                           ` Martin Fick
2018-06-13 14:12                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-13 14:48                                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  2:53                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08  6:26                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  8:13                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 12:03                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:53                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 14:45                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08 16:02                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:09                               ` Johannes Sixt
2018-06-09 22:50                               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-10  1:41                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 17:54               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 19:48             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 20:24               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-08 23:00   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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