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From: Peter Backes <rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GDPR compliance best practices?
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 21:11:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180603191107.GA12182@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180603181807.GB1750@thunk.org>

On Sun, Jun 03, 2018 at 02:18:07PM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> I would gently suggest that if you really want to engage in something
> practical than speculating how the GPDR compliance will work out in
> actual practice, that you contact a lawyer and get official legal
> advice?

I completely disagree.

Erasure is a technical issue to be solved by engineers, not by lawyers.

And that's completely in line with the GDPR. The GDPR is ultimately not 
a legal thing to be solved by lawyers writing lengthy legal 
argumentations and disclaimers and such. They are not even the ones to 
take lead in GDPR implementation. All that would be simply snake oil. 
Some legal documentation may be necessary, and having a competent 
lawyer in a GDPR compliance task force is certainly a must. But that 
gets you done only 20% of the job, 80% is engineering. Every lawyer who 
claims to give you shady legal tricks to get the job 100% done in no 
time is a liar.

The GDPRs ultimate goal is to incline the world to improve how data 
protection is implemented on a technical level. The GDPR contains 
several blanket clauses that refer to the "state of the art" of 
technology, which the GDPR itself of course does not define and which 
is of course nothing a lawyer has any competence in.

My proposal is a technical, not a legal one: Provide a generic 
possibility of having eraseability and verifiability at the same time 
in git. Improve the state of the art in version control such that it is 
more in line with the GDPRs idea that people have a right to be 
forgotten, but to also be useful for a multitude of other applications. 
The lawyers can then build on this.

Best wishes
Peter

-- 
Peter Backes, rtc@helen.PLASMA.Xg8.DE

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-03 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 19:15 GDPR compliance best practices? Peter Backes
2018-04-17 21:38 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-17 23:25   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03  9:27   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 10:45     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 11:25       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 12:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 14:18           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 15:28             ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 17:46               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 18:18                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 19:11                   ` Peter Backes [this message]
2018-06-03 19:24                     ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 20:07                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 20:52                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 21:03                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 22:16                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 13:47                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-04 18:22                                 ` Peter Backes
2018-06-03 22:28                 ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 23:01                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-04 12:24                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07  1:38                 ` David Lang
2018-06-07  6:32                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 21:28                     ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-07 22:34                       ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 22:38                         ` David Lang
2018-06-07 23:21                           ` Peter Backes
2018-06-07 23:53                             ` David Lang
2018-06-08  6:16                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  7:42                                 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 11:58                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 18:51                                     ` David Lang
2018-06-12 18:56                                       ` David Lang
2018-06-12 19:12                                         ` Peter Backes
2018-06-12 19:16                                           ` Martin Fick
2018-06-13 14:12                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-13 14:48                                             ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  2:53                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08  6:26                               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08  8:13                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 12:03                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:53                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-08 14:45                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-08 16:02                                   ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:09                               ` Johannes Sixt
2018-06-09 22:50                               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-10  1:41                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-03 17:54               ` Philip Oakley
2018-06-03 19:48             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03 20:24               ` Peter Backes
2018-06-08 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-06-08 23:00   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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