From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E0F1F404 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 18:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751965AbeCESBV (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:01:21 -0500 Received: from mail-pf0-f173.google.com ([209.85.192.173]:42724 "EHLO mail-pf0-f173.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751852AbeCESBU (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:01:20 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f173.google.com with SMTP id a16so7524212pfn.9 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:01:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=mVjnMKYBl464/JhaKDwq95yTdJGDDRpaS8W8WXvoloI=; b=p+PYNRyjsk6a1W4NzBzWYQwry2NKxL5xvtNBMVLVuLuF1x/HIUH0nX2R5OCeG684Bt 2UxpSGMEtUqWAdqQF5yK4uZYTCBdH3WWSRv9uSQDL4fU9NIWckEc21sP4ZkLglGiB3pB muHHGH20L5FJryw3y0Gv2Z0nLiyRVWiEp2mdPxw/72DTSgenEIWG2MvQIFpq4hdXlpjT qkf6PP9SzXWzZhTe1oHKESXkVro5Z2ITHCIWq3eierAepQUQjCW+4jdVtcJlv0vB04sA BBXjeIyuyWZJc/irimYRXK2v40q1gkFZE26aDbjXSg8hqwVz1+ZsspOrZoxy6YdN7brB ELwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=mVjnMKYBl464/JhaKDwq95yTdJGDDRpaS8W8WXvoloI=; b=qcfWASMqQ32cZevjOcsfl6iIh9vvqakz5NStQguwzcILv66CufEtvkTGlj8RSnb8j9 V0aRJhBDkFJszpii/wZf7peSuZjok+1v/302Uvemn79XQUmx8D16wn5d3695CTjWzwDW ZDKWg6CW2OA7pTF+glXtsDY+e6h7utB1naezGM3WBe43iYhQpvFD1sew2VdWPj4rx+eA lkDzvmCuElgLaxEezMjMAZRJ25g/VQkIMXvfm+HSv/ovJG6Tw7WI30QNjbAG4I93qPPd 7o33DBPWpOSV7Mofn3ooev4FJSehVRVFL0oAqvbFZ6OE3H0cxL96i+Y2vS/CcF1KMSTk OYtg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDXSXqxUX5w3Du2e8f3TkKXBza1XfGrHYdHfPF83cur6mL3JTbR vhDvCTOgrYWvIU13JvVLhrYLlPPi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELv7LWD0pTojUMnNMb2MWNw3SMPm2sulVsGt2euUy1vjpUJ99mEmYA+3ojJ73txMpMsTkgFQzA== X-Received: by 10.98.32.200 with SMTP id m69mr16124758pfj.82.1520272877678; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aiede.svl.corp.google.com ([2620:0:100e:422:4187:1d6c:d3d6:9ce6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm11536879pfe.187.2018.03.05.10.01.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:01:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:01:09 -0800 From: Jonathan Nieder To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: Junio C Hamano , Derrick Stolee , "git@vger.kernel.org" , Derrick Stolee Subject: Re: [RFC] Contributing to Git (on Windows) Message-ID: <20180305180109.GA28067@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> References: <176408fc-3645-66d3-2aa3-30ca3fa723e7@gmail.com> <20180302044409.GC238112@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> <20180303182723.GA76934@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Hi Dscho, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2018, Jonathan Nieder wrote: >> Hopefully the clarifications and suggestions higher in this message >> help. If they don't, then I'm nervous about our ability to understand >> each other. > > Okay, let me state what I think the goal of this document should be: > > To help Windows-based developers who want to contribute their first > patch to the Git project. > > Whatever makes it easier to contributors and is easily explained, should > go in, in my opinion. > > Wishful thinking, and philosophical considerations, should probably stay > out. I think this conversation has gone way off the rails. I certainly share some blame for that: in https://public-inbox.org/git/20180303182723.GA76934@aiede.svl.corp.google.com/ I let my emotions get the better of me and let my bafflement show instead of focusing on my gratitude for the context and clarifications you were providing. And I am grateful for those. What went wrong is that I somehow turned it into a debate. That's not the point of a patch review. After all, we have the same goals for this document! So I am happy to continue to work with Derrick Stolee (and anyone else interested) on whatever improvements he would like to pursue, but I am going to bow out of the arguing with you part, if that's okay. Jonathan