From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>,
"Brandon Williams" <bmwill@google.com>,
"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 19:31:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171209003130.GA28044@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk1xw6c24.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 03:21:23PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>
> > That endgame allows us not force people to grab an essential part of
> > the codebase as an external dependency from another place, which
> > feels quite bad, especially when their primary interest is not in
> > dogfooding submodule but in building a working version of Git.
> >
> > Removing one and keeping the other between the two will make the
> > distribution more streamlined by removing the build-time knob we
> > need to tweak, but the one that gets removed does not have to be the
> > in-tree one that allows people to "git clone" from just one place.
>
> Perhaps this may deserve a bit more explanation.
>
> I wouldn't be so against "let's do submodule-only" if this were not
> SHA-1 implementation but something like gitk and git-gui. An optional
> part of a system that it is safe to leave to individual builders if
> they want to fetch and use that part *is* an ideal target to bind as
> a submodule to the system.
>
> It's just the "default SHA-1 implementation" is at the far opposite
> end of the spectrum from "an optional part", and our use of
> submodule to bind this code is definitely *not* because it makes
> sense to use submodule in that context; it is because developers
> (not necessarily those who consume Git sourcecode) *wanted* to use
> submodule there, regardless of the real merit of doing so.
Thanks for writing this out. I had a vague feeling that I didn't quite
like going the submodule-only direction, but I was having trouble
putting into words. It's exactly this.
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-09 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-28 21:32 [PATCH 0/4] SHA1DC fixes & fully moving to a git.git submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: don't error out under DC_SHA1_EXTERNAL if DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=auto Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 6:53 ` Jeff King
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] sha1dc_git.h: re-arrange an ifdef chain for a subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 6:55 ` Jeff King
2017-11-28 21:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 7:02 ` Jeff King
2017-12-05 10:22 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-05 13:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-05 14:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-09 12:30 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-09 12:53 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-05 16:32 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20171128213214.12477-5-avarab@gmail.com>
2017-12-05 7:10 ` [PATCH 4/4] sha1dc: remove in favor of using sha1collisiondetection as a submodule Jeff King
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] SHA1DC fixes & fully moving to a git.git submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-09 13:08 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] Makefile: don't error out under DC_SHA1_EXTERNAL if DC_SHA1_SUBMODULE=auto Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] Makefile: under "make dist", include the sha1collisiondetection submodule Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 23:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-19 19:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] sha1dc_git.h: re-arrange an ifdef chain for a subsequent change Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] Makefile: use the sha1collisiondetection submodule by default Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-12-08 22:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-08 23:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-09 0:31 ` Jeff King [this message]
2017-12-08 23:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
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