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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jean-Noel Avila <jn.avila@free.fr>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 09:47:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170503164744.GY28740@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170503162931.30721-1-jn.avila@free.fr>

Hi,

Jean-Noel Avila wrote:

> As described in the bug report at
>
> https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/issues/999

External issue tracker URLs have been known to change or disappear and
we try to make commit messages self-contained instead of relying on
them.  It is common to put a 'Requested-by:' footer or sentence saying
'Requested at <url> by <person>' near the bottom of a commit message
for attribution and context.  Relying on the bug report more heavily
like this example (instead of including any relevant information)
makes it harder for a reader to understand the patch easily in
one place.

In other words, instead of asking the reader to read the bug report,
please include pertinent information the reader needs to
understand the patch here so they don't have to.

> the user was disconcerted by the question asked by the program not
> requiring a reply from the user. To improve the general usability of
> the Git suite, The following rule was applied:
>
> if the sentence
>  * appears in a non-interactive session
>  * is printed last before exit
>  * is a question addressing the user ("you")
>
> the sentence is turned into affirmative and proposes the option.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jean-Noel Avila <jn.avila@free.fr>
> ---
>  help.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/help.c b/help.c
> index bc6cd19cf..4658a55c6 100644
> --- a/help.c
> +++ b/help.c
> @@ -411,8 +411,8 @@ const char *help_unknown_cmd(const char *cmd)
>  
>  	if (SIMILAR_ENOUGH(best_similarity)) {
>  		fprintf_ln(stderr,
> -			   Q_("\nDid you mean this?",
> -			      "\nDid you mean one of these?",
> +			   Q_("\nThe most approaching command is",
> +			      "\nThe most approaching commands are",
>  			   n));

For what it's worth, I find the new text harder to understand than the
old text.

From the bug report:

	Now git says git: 'stahs' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
	Did you mean this?

	stash

	Git asked if i meant git stash. and i entered yes. and git
	printed the character y infinite times.

If I'm reading that correctly, the problem is not that questions are
alarming but that Git did not cope well with the answer.  When I try
to reproduce it, I get

	$ git stahs
	WARNING: You called a Git command named 'stahs', which does not exist.
	Continuing under the assumption that you meant 'stash'
	in 5.0 seconds automatically...

which is much clearer.  After commenting out "[help] autocorrect = 50" in my
~/.config/git/config, I get

	$ git stahs
	git: 'stahs' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

	Did you mean this?
		stash

which does seem improvable, at least for consistency with the
autocorrect case.  For example, would something like

	$ git stahs
	fatal: You called a Git command named 'stahs', which does not exist.
	hint: Did you mean 'git stash'?

work better?  And the autocorrect case could say something like

	$ git stahs
	warning: You called a Git command named 'stahs', which does not exist.
	warning: Continuing under the assumption that you meant 'stash'
	warning: in 5.0 seconds automatically...

Is contact information for the bug reporter available so we can try out
different wordings and see what works for them?

Thanks and hope that helps,
Jonathan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-03 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-03 16:29 [PATCH 1/4] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-03 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] usability: fix am and checkout for nevermind questions Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-03 16:51   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-03 18:35     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-03 16:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] read-tree.c: rework UI when merging no trees Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-03 17:04   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-03 18:39     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-03 16:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] git-filter-branch: be assertative on dying message Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-03 17:07   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-03 16:47 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2017-05-03 16:58   ` [PATCH 1/4] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required Stefan Beller
2017-05-03 17:37   ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-03 21:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-03 21:07   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] read-tree -m: make error message for merging 0 trees less smart aleck Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-11  3:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-11  4:31       ` [PATCH] read-tree: "read-tree -m --empty" does not make sense Junio C Hamano
2017-05-03 21:07   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] git-filter-branch: make the error msg when missing branch more open Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-11  3:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-04  8:52   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required Kerry, Richard
2017-05-04  9:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-04 10:14       ` Kerry, Richard
2017-05-09  8:18         ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-09  9:21           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-04  9:41     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-11  3:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-11 10:10     ` Kerry, Richard
2017-05-11 10:28       ` Konstantin Khomoutov
2017-05-11 10:33         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-11 12:06 ` [PATCH v3 " Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-11 12:06   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] read-tree -m: make error message for merging 0 trees less smart aleck Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-11 19:08     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-05-12  6:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-12 12:54         ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-05-11 12:06   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] git-filter-branch: Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-12  6:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-12 13:03 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-12 13:03   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] read-tree -m: make error message for merging 0 trees less smart aleck Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-12 13:03   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] git-filter-branch: be more direct in an error message Jean-Noel Avila
2017-05-12 22:36   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] usability: don't ask questions if no reply is required Junio C Hamano
2017-05-13 15:37     ` Johannes Sixt
2017-05-15  2:18       ` Junio C Hamano

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