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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Jacob Keller <jacob.keller@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Git mailing list <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding "git log" on "git series" metadata
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:49:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161104194907.3yxu2rkayfyic4dr@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+P7+xq0LLFBJRNNvCMQ4QR7XBg9H7NSsifiqOYqr+PUBqYRGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 12:19:55PM -0700, Jacob Keller wrote:

> I agree with your assessment here. The main difficulty in implementing
> gitrefs is to ensure that they actually do get picked up by
> reachability checks to prevent dropping commits. I'm not sure how easy
> this is, but I would much rather we go this route rather than
> continuing along with the hack. This seems like the ideal solution,
> since it solves the entire problem and doesn't need more hacks bolted
> on.

I think the main complication is that the reachability rules are used
during object transfer. So you'd probably want to introduce some
protocol extension to say "I understand gitrefs", so that when one side
says "I have sha1 X and its reachable objects", we know whether they are
including gitrefs there. And likewise receivers with
transfer.fsckObjects may complain about the new gitref tree mode
(fortunately a new object type shouldn't be needed).

You might also want fallback rules for storing gitrefs on "old" servers
(e.g., backfilling gitrefs you need if the server didn't them in the
initial fetch). But I guess storing any gitrefs on such a server is
inherently dangerous, because the server might prune them at any time.

So perhaps a related question is: how can gitrefs be designed such that
existing servers reject them (rather than accepting the push and then
later throwing away half the data). It would be easy to notice in the
client during a push that we are sending gitrefs to a server which does
not claim that capability. But it seems more robust if it is the server
who decides "I will not accept these bogus objects".

I haven't thought all that hard about this. That's just my initial
thoughts on what sound hard. Tweaking the reachability code doesn't seem
all that bad; we already know all of the spots that care about
S_ISGITLINK(). It may even be that some of those spots work out of the
box (because gitlinks are usually about telling the graph-walking code
that we _don't_ care about reachability; we do by default for trees and
blobs).

I'd be surprised if all such sites work out of the box, though. Even if
they see "ah, sha1 X is referenced by tree Y and isn't a gitlink, and
therefore should be reachable", they need to also note that "X" is a
commit and recursively walk its objects.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-04 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04 17:57 Regarding "git log" on "git series" metadata Junio C Hamano
2016-11-04 19:19 ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-04 19:49   ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-11-04 21:55     ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-04 23:37       ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-04 23:46         ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-04 23:34     ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-05  1:48       ` Jeff King
2016-11-05  3:55         ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-05  4:41           ` Jeff King
2016-11-05  4:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-05  4:44       ` Jeff King
2016-11-05  5:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-04 20:47 ` Christian Couder
2016-11-04 21:19   ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-04 23:04     ` Christian Couder
2016-11-13 17:50       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2016-11-05 21:56     ` Christian Couder
2016-11-05  4:42   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-05 12:17     ` Christian Couder
2016-11-05 12:45       ` Christian Couder
2016-11-05 15:18         ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-05 20:21           ` Christian Couder
2016-11-05 20:25             ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-06  4:50               ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-06 16:34                 ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-06 17:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-06 17:33                     ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-06 20:17                       ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-07  1:18                         ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-07  5:35                           ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-07  9:42                           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-11-07 16:11                             ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-09 22:57                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-04 21:06 ` Josh Triplett

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