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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	sschuberth@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Config conditional include
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:03:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160628210309.GC21002@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpqk2h9qbp8.fsf@anie.imag.fr>

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:51:15PM +0200, Matthieu Moy wrote:

> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 07:26:39PM +0200, Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy wrote:
> >
> >> There's a surprise about core.ignorecase. We are matching paths, so we
> >> should match case-insensitively if core.ignorecase tells us so. And it
> >> gets a bit tricky if core.ignorecase is defined in the same config
> >> file. I don't think we have ever told the user that keys are processed
> >> from top down. We do now.
> >
> > Hrm. I'm not excited about introducing ordering issues into the config
> > parsing.
> 
> There's already at least one case of ordering-sensitive variables, that
> we encountered when writting the config cache during Tanay Abhra's GSoC:
> diff.<driver>.funcname Vs diff.<driver>.xfuncname. Git applies the "last
> one wins" policy, which is the normal rule for a single-valued variable,
> but in this case, a "funcname" definition can override an "xfuncname"
> def. To preserve this behavior we had to introduce ordering in the
> cache, but to me this was a design mistake to rely on order.
> 
> In short: we already have one, but I'm not excited either about
> introducing new ones.

I still see funcname versus xfuncname as fundamentally a "last one wins"
scenario; it's just that the two options are sort-of synonyms. But we
are still talking about the same linear-ish parsing scheme, and I think
it just makes the implementation a little more complicated.

I'm much more worried about something that impacts how we parse the
config, and is set up in a possibly unrelated config-parsing sequence.
So whether ignorecase will work depends on more variables:

 - are we doing our config parse before or after somebody has called
   git_config() at the start of a program?

 - if before (or during), does our callback call git_default_core_config()?

 - if so, did core.ignorecase appear before our include? (Almost
   certainly not, if our include is in ~/.gitconfig, because we parse
   from least-specific to most-specific).

So here it is not the implementation that is complicated, but the
user-facing behavior. It's very difficult to predict when your include
will kick in, and there is a good chance it will behave differently for
different programs.

In general I think the best bet here is to lazy-load such values from
the config-cache (so we _know_ that we got a complete parse before we
look at the value). But that creates a recursion problem when we try to
lazy-load from inside the config parser itself.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-28 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-26  7:06 [PATCH] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-06-26 18:27 ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 16:14   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-06-27 16:20     ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 16:32       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-06-27 16:35         ` Jeff King
2016-06-28 17:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Config " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-06-28 17:26   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] add skip_prefix_mem helper Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-06-28 17:26   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-06-28 20:49     ` Jeff King
2016-06-29  4:06       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-06-28 23:11     ` Eric Sunshine
2016-07-12 16:42     ` [PATCH v3] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-07-13  7:21       ` Matthieu Moy
2016-07-13  7:26         ` Jeff King
2016-07-13 12:48           ` Matthieu Moy
2016-07-13 15:57         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-14 15:33       ` [PATCH v4] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2016-07-14 15:53         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-14 16:13           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-16 13:30             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-16 14:48               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-16 15:08               ` Jeff King
2016-07-16 16:36                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-16 16:47                   ` Jeff King
2016-07-17  8:15                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-20 13:31                       ` Jeff King
2016-07-20 22:07                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-20 16:39                     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-13  8:40         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-19 13:54           ` Jeff King
2016-08-20 21:08             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-22 12:43               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-22 12:59                 ` Matthieu Moy
2016-08-22 13:09                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-22 13:22                     ` Matthieu Moy
2016-08-22 13:32                       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-23 13:42                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-24  9:37                           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-24 12:44                             ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-24 14:17                               ` Jeff King
2016-06-28 20:28   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Config " Jeff King
2016-06-28 20:51     ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-28 21:03       ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-06-29  4:09     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-06-28 22:11   ` Junio C Hamano

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