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From: Petr Baudis <pasky@ucw.cz>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] git stash: Avoid data loss when saving a stash
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 16:42:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130706144214.GM12252@machine.or.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vppv3jtrh.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

  Hi!

  (tl;dr - I disagree but this issue is perhaps not so important
in practice)

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:14:26PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> I do not agree with your `git reset --hard` at all.  With the
> command, the user demands "no matter what, I want get rid of any
> funny state in my working tree so that I can start my work from that
> specified commit (default to HEAD)".

  Yeah, but this normally concerns only tracked files; `git reset
--hard` does not imply `git clean`. I'm worried when a tool normally
behaves in a way that follows an apparent rule but its behavior is
defined in such a way that in a corner case this rule is violated (but
it's ok since it's a - non-obvious - implication of the specification).

> Imagine that this is you did to arrive that "funny state":
> 
> 	$ git rm foo ;# foo used to be tracked and in HEAD
>         $ cp /somewhere/else/foo foo
> 	$ cp /somewhere/else/bar bar ;# bar is not in HEAD
> 	$ cp /somewhere/else/bar baz ;# baz is in HEAD
>         ... do various other things ...
> 
> and then "git reset --hard".  At that point, "foo" and "bar" are not
> tracked and completely unrelated to the project.  "baz" is tracked
> and have unrelated contents from that of "HEAD".
> 
> In order to satisfy your desire to go back to the state of HEAD with
> minimal collateral amage, we need to get rid of the updated "foo"
> and "baz" and replace them with those from HEAD.  We do not have to
> touch "bar" so we leave it as-is.

  Perhaps we misundertood each other here. I certainly don't care to
keep local changes as a whole - a command behaving like that wouldn't
be very useful for me; for me, the crucial distinction is between
tracked and untracked files. Therefore, from my viewpoint it's fine
to overwrite baz, but not to overwrite foo.

> And the "killed" case is just like "foo" and "baz".  If the state
> you want to go back to with "--hard" has a directory (a file) where
> your working tree's funny state has a file (a directory), the local
> cruft needs to go away to satisify your request.
> 
> I do not mind if you are proposing a different and new kind of reset
> that fails if it has to overwrite any local changes (be it tracked
> or untracked), but that is not "reset --hard".  It is something else.

  Hmm, I suppose the assumption I would prefer is that "the only command
that will destroy (currently) untracked data without warning is `git
clean`"; even though (unlike in case of git stash) the current reset
--hard behavior wouldn't surprise me, I suspect it can be a bad surprise
for many Git users when they hit this situation; but since I didn't
notice any actual complaint yet, so I don't care enough to press this
further for now anyway. :-)

-- 
				Petr "Pasky" Baudis
	For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear,
	simple, and wrong.  -- H. L. Mencken

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-06 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-28 15:05 [PATCH] git stash: Avoid data loss when saving a stash Petr Baudis
2013-06-28 18:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-30 13:20   ` Petr Baudis
2013-06-30 19:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-06 14:42       ` Petr Baudis [this message]
2013-06-28 19:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-28 21:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-01 21:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Safety for "stash save" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-01 21:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] treat_directory(): do not declare submodules to be untracked Junio C Hamano
2013-07-01 21:59   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] git stash: avoid data loss when "git stash save" kills a directory Junio C Hamano

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