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From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin
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On 2013-06-09 13:01:30 -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> >> You don't agree that 1) a collegial work environment is overrated, 2)
> >> that the Linux kernel doesn't put an emphasis on being collegial, or
> >> 3) that it's the most successful software project in history?
> >
> > Point 1.
> 
> Good, so we agree that a project doesn't need a collegial work
> environment to be extremely and amazingly successful. In fact, any
> rational person would keep an open mind to the fact that perhaps it
> actually _helps_ to not have such environment, based on the evidence.

Just from skimming both lists, most of the time I find lkml to be nicer
(and more collegial) to read because it has a better atmosphere than
git@ had in the last year or two.

And yes, a good atmosphere plays an important role. One of the reasons
is that it makes it easier to discern arguments based on personality
disputes - which certainly exist on lk - from actual technical
disagreements that need to be resolved.

Greetings,

Andres Freund