From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeff King Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:04:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20130609180437.GB810@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20130608164902.GA3109@elie.Belkin> <20130608173447.GA4381@elie.Belkin> <20130609014049.GA10375@google.com> <20130609052624.GB561@sigill.intra.peff.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Felipe Contreras , Jonathan Nieder , Duy Nguyen , Git Mailing List , Junio C Hamano , Brandon Casey To: Ramkumar Ramachandra X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jun 09 20:04:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uljyv-0004Qv-Th for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:04:46 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751419Ab3FISEl (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:04:41 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([50.56.180.127]:37184 "EHLO peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751236Ab3FISEl (ORCPT ); Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:04:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 18226 invoked by uid 102); 9 Jun 2013 18:05:30 -0000 Received: from c-71-62-74-146.hsd1.va.comcast.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (71.62.74.146) (smtp-auth username relayok, mechanism cram-md5) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTPA; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 13:05:30 -0500 Received: by sigill.intra.peff.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:04:37 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 06:18:51PM +0530, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > > I have consistently found your demeanor on the list to be very > > unfriendly and difficult to work with. It is one thing to have honest > > and straight talk, and another thing to be obstinate, unmindful of > > feedback (both with respect to technical details, as well as to > > communication styles), and disrespectful of other people. > > While I agree that being rude and obstinate is definitely undesirable, > and that a healthy on-list environment is important, I have something > to add: > > Being super-tactful comes at a cost. I actually think word choice and politeness is only a small part of it, and one that I live without. It is not just _how_ something is said, but _what_ is said. And sometimes what is said does not lead in a productive direction. I found Thomas's comment here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/227053 sums up the core of many of the conflicts I've seen on the list. I am less interested in people's feelings than I am in discussions trying to reach a productive position of agreement, rather than turning it into a point by point debate that may no longer have any use for the project (sometimes individual points need to be refuted or discussed, of course, but it is easy to lose sight of the purpose of an email). -Peff