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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ramkumar Ramachandra" <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	"Bráulio Bhavamitra" <brauliobo@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [git-users] Highlevel (but simple to implement) commands provided by default for git
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 22:23:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130530052318.GA2923@elie.Belkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s3807Dk0SOZcBbaOKTLj5k36bW0SA9F5ZBY2MwS1Nnxiw@mail.gmail.com>

Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:

>>> Making builtins override'able is also a terrible idea.  It opens doors
>>> to potential bugs we don't want to deal with.  Simple example:
>>>
>>>    am = log -1
>>>    log = am -3
>>
>> That's detectable and could be made to error out, so it's not too bad.
>>
>> A bigger problem (in my opinion) with allowing arbitrary changes to
>> the meaning of existing commands is that scripts, whether placed in
>> .sh files or given as commands to run over IRC, stop working
>> altogether.  It's nice to have commands like "git log" and "git am"
>> mean the same thing no matter what machine I am on.
>
> Except that's not true:

It's not true that my opinion is that a bigger problem than the
non-problem Ram mentioned with allowing arbitrary changes to the
meaning of existing commands is that scripts stop working reliably?

This combative style of communication is toxic.  It kills the chance
of a calm, pleasant discussion, even with patient people who don't
even fundamentally disagree.  Please stop it.

Perhaps you meant "Commands like 'git log' and 'git am' actually don't
mean the same thing on all machines.  The default format of 'git log'
is configurable.  But that is neither here nor there", which would
have been a pleasant (if irrelevant) response instead of an obnoxious
one.

Regards,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-30  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <f611150e-a12a-47f6-97f0-8aaff3045338@googlegroups.com>
     [not found] ` <f611150e-a12a-47f6-97f0-8aaff3045338-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 18:05   ` Highlevel (but simple to implement) commands provided by default for git Bráulio Bhavamitra
2013-05-29 18:11 ` Fwd: [git-users] " Bráulio Bhavamitra
2013-05-29 18:26   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-05-29 19:50     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-29 20:00       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-05-30  2:48         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-29 20:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-29 20:19         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-05-29 21:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-29 21:26             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-02 19:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-03 23:22         ` Duy Nguyen
2013-05-29 18:58   ` Fwd: " Junio C Hamano
2013-05-29 19:39   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-29 20:27     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
     [not found]       ` <CAJri6_uScqjovt5eK9f9+Z4ehtsdYQNuiEX1MERiDBEJWueAXg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-05-29 21:32         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-05-29 23:43           ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-05-30  3:08             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-30  5:23               ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2013-05-30  5:28                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-30 14:54                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-05-30 15:32                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-30  7:30             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-05-30  3:04       ` Felipe Contreras

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