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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 8/8] send-email: do not prompt for explicit repo ident
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:13:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121115111334.GA1879@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121115104345.GA32465@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 02:43:58AM -0800, Jeff King wrote:

> > And doesn't have any of the following:
> > 
> >  * configured user.name/user.email
> >  * specified $EMAIL
> >  * configured sendemail.from
> >  * specified --from argument
> > 
> > Very unlikely.
> 
> That is certainly the opinion you have stated already. I'm not sure I
> agree. Linus, for example, was an advocate of such a configuration early
> on in git's history. I don't think he still runs that way, though.
> 
> > And then, what would be the consequences of not receiving this prompt?
> 
> An email would be sent with the generated identity.

I suspect you did not need me to answer that question, but were setting
it up as a rhetorical trap to mention the final confirmation, which I
failed to note in my response.

I think a much more compelling argument/commit message for your
suggested patch would be:

  We currently prompt the user for the "From" address. This is an
  inconvenience in the common case that the user has configured their
  identity in the environment, but is meant as a safety check for when
  git falls back to an implicitly generated identity (which may or may
  not be valid).

  That safety check is not really necessary, though, as by default
  send-email will prompt the user for a final confirmation before
  sending out any message. The likelihood that a user has both bothered
  to turn off this default _and_ not configured any identity (nor
  checked that the automatic identity is valid) is rather low.

I could accept that line of reasoning.  I see that this argument is
buried deep in your commit message, but I will admit to not reading your
9-point list of conditions all that closely, as the first 7 points are,
in my opinion, not relevant (and I had already read and disagreed with
them in other messages).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-15 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-11 17:06 [PATCH] send-email: add proper default sender Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 17:12 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2012-11-11 18:06   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-12 23:35 ` Jeff King
2012-11-12 23:42   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13  0:02     ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  0:06       ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  0:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-13  0:54       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13  3:27         ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  3:40           ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  3:55           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13  4:01             ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  6:42               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13  7:18                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13  7:47                 ` Jeff King
2012-11-13  9:06                   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-13 16:48                     ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:49                       ` [PATCH 1/6] ident: make user_ident_explicitly_given private Jeff King
2012-11-14 16:44                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-14 19:11                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:52                       ` [PATCH 2/6] ident: keep separate "explicit" flags for author and committer Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:52                       ` [PATCH 3/6] var: accept multiple variables on the command line Jeff King
2012-11-14 17:01                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-14 19:26                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:53                       ` [PATCH 4/6] var: provide explicit/implicit ident information Jeff King
2012-11-14 17:06                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-14 19:53                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:53                       ` [PATCH 5/6] Git.pm: teach "ident" to query explicitness Jeff King
     [not found]                         ` <20121113172300.GA16241@ftbfs.org>
2012-11-13 17:25                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-14 17:12                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-14 19:54                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 16:53                       ` [PATCH 6/6] send-email: do not prompt for explicit repo ident Jeff King
2012-11-14 17:18                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-14 20:05                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-14 20:26                             ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 20:35                       ` [PATCH] send-email: add proper default sender Felipe Contreras
2012-11-15  0:07                         ` Jeff King
2012-11-15  1:41                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-15  1:50                             ` Jeff King
2012-11-15  2:14                               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-15  0:30                       ` [PATCHv2 0/8] loosening "sender" prompt in send-email Jeff King
2012-11-15  0:33                         ` [PATCHv2 1/8] test-lib: allow negation of prerequisites Jeff King
2012-11-15  7:46                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15 16:42                             ` Jeff King
2012-11-15 16:49                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:33                         ` [PATCHv2 2/8] t7502: factor out autoident prerequisite Jeff King
2012-11-15  7:49                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:34                         ` [PATCHv2 3/8] ident: make user_ident_explicitly_given static Jeff King
2012-11-15  7:51                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:34                         ` [PATCHv2 4/8] ident: keep separate "explicit" flags for author and committer Jeff King
2012-11-15  8:04                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:35                         ` [PATCHv2 5/8] var: accept multiple variables on the command line Jeff King
2012-11-15  8:10                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:35                         ` [PATCHv2 6/8] var: provide explicit/implicit ident information Jeff King
2012-11-15  0:36                         ` [PATCHv2 7/8] Git.pm: teach "ident" to query explicitness Jeff King
2012-11-15  8:13                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-15  0:36                         ` [PATCHv2 8/8] send-email: do not prompt for explicit repo ident Jeff King
2012-11-15  2:08                           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-15  8:33                             ` Jeff King
2012-11-15 10:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-15 10:43                                 ` Jeff King
2012-11-15 11:13                                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-11-15 11:50                                     ` Jeff King
2012-11-15 16:56                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-15 17:28                                       ` Jeff King
2012-11-16  5:17                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-16 19:08                                           ` Jeff King
2012-11-16 19:57                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-16 20:11                                               ` Jeff King
2012-11-16 20:04                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-15  8:23                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-13 16:13                   ` [PATCH] send-email: add proper default sender Junio C Hamano
2012-11-13 17:14                     ` Jeff King
2012-11-13 17:23                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-13 17:20   ` Erik Faye-Lund

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