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From: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
To: Michael G Schwern <schwern@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, robbat2@gentoo.org,
	bwalton@artsci.utoronto.ca, jrnieder@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Fix git-svn for SVN 1.7
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:18:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120731021816.GA12640@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50172F10.2030402@pobox.com>

Michael G Schwern <schwern@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2012.7.30 3:15 PM, Eric Wong wrote:
> >> Right now, canonicalization is a bug generator.  Paths and URLs have to be in
> >> the same form when they're compared.  This requires meticulous care on the
> >> part of the coder and reviewer to check every comparison.  It scatters the
> >> logic for proper comparison all over the code.  Redundant logic scattered
> >> around the code is a Bad Thing.  It makes it more likely a coder will forget
> >> the logic, or get it wrong, and a human reviewer must be far more vigilant.
> > 
> > <snip>  I agree completely with canonicalization.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not sure what you're agreeing with.

That's it's a bug generator and we shouldn't have redundant logic.
Having functions to compare objects themselves is a good thing.

> >> The only downside is when chasing down a bug related to canonicalization one
> >> might have to realize that eq is overloaded.
> > 
> > Having to realize eq is overloaded is a huge downside to me.
> 
> Presumably you'd be reviewing the change which implements the overloaded
> objects, so you'd know about it.  And it would be documented.

The change itself is easy to review.   Picking up the code a few
months/years down the line and having to know "eq" is overloaded
tends to bite people.

> I've listed a bunch of concrete positives for using comparison overloaded
> URI/path objects vs how it's currently being done.  How about you voice some
> of the downsides in concrete terms?  Or an alternative that solves the current
> problems?

Any custom comparison function would do the trick (e.g. URI::eq()).

I _want_ URI/path objects.  I do not want a bare "eq" operator to
obscure the fact it's calling URI::eq() behind-the-scenes.

That said, I don't mind overloads when it's obvious an overload is being
used (e.g. stringify).  It's things like "eq" which obscure the fact
function calls are happening in the background.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-31  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-28  9:47 Fix git-svn for SVN 1.7 Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 1/8] SVN 1.7 will truncate "not-a%40{0}" to just "not-a" Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28 14:16   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-28 19:32     ` Michael G Schwern
2012-10-09  8:41       ` [PATCH/RFC] svn test: escape peg revision separator using empty peg rev Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-09  9:47         ` Michael J Gruber
2012-10-09 10:19           ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-10 20:37             ` Eric Wong
2012-10-10 21:02               ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-10 21:31                 ` Eric Wong
2012-10-10 21:42                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-10 22:16                     ` Eric Wong
2012-10-10 22:33               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 2/8] Fix typo in test Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] Improve our URL canonicalization to be more like SVN 1.7's Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 4/8] Replace hand rolled URL escapes with canonicalization Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 5/8] Canonicalize earlier in a couple spots Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 6/8] Add function to append a path to a URL Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 7/8] Turn on canonicalization on newly minted URLs Michael G. Schwern
2012-10-06 19:24   ` [PATCH/RFC] test: work around SVN 1.7 mishandling of svn:special changes Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-09 10:12     ` [PATCH/RFC v2] git svn: " Jonathan Nieder
2012-10-10 20:11       ` Eric Wong
2012-10-10 20:47         ` [PATCH v3] " Jonathan Nieder
2012-07-28  9:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] Remove some ad hoc canonicalizations Michael G. Schwern
2012-07-30 20:38 ` Fix git-svn for SVN 1.7 Eric Wong
2012-07-30 21:10   ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-30 22:15     ` Eric Wong
2012-07-31  1:04       ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-31  2:18         ` Eric Wong [this message]
2012-07-31  4:30           ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-31  6:53   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-31  9:54     ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-31 20:01       ` Eric Wong
2012-07-31 23:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-07-31 23:28           ` Michael G Schwern
2012-07-31 23:24         ` Michael G Schwern
2012-08-01 21:30           ` Eric Wong
2012-08-02 10:31 ` Eric Wong
2012-08-02 16:07   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-08-02 18:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-02 19:50       ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-08-02 22:10         ` Eric Wong
2012-08-21  4:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-21 21:03         ` Eric Wong
2012-08-21 21:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-02 20:51     ` Eric Wong
2012-08-02 21:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-08-02 21:42         ` Eric Wong
2012-08-02 21:55           ` Eric Wong
2012-08-02 22:05             ` Junio C Hamano

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