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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git wiki PATCH] Teaching "--3way" to "git apply"
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 05:02:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120305100236.GA29061@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcmjxyjh.fsf@thomas.inf.ethz.ch>

On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:05:54AM +0100, Thomas Rast wrote:

> > I actually think it may be a little bit too small for a whole summer
> > project. But I pushed it to the wiki for the reasons above; this is just
> > an ideas page, not a solid list of proposals.
> 
> Perhaps we should spell this out in the leading text?  I was going to
> send a patch, but got stuck rewording at
> 
>   Note that these are ideas, not project proposals.  As stated, they may
>   not be of the right difficulty or size to be solved within one Summer
>   of Code.
> 
> Maybe you can find a nicer way to write the "as stated" (I want it to
> say "in the form they currently have") and put that before the first
> title.

I think the whole intro text is pretty bad. I just pushed the patch
below, but I'm open to suggestions.

-- >8 --
ideas: give a better introduction

The original text was just pulled from the ideas page of
previous years. Let's rework it to address our two audiences
(people adding ideas, and students reading the page)
directly. And especially let's encourage students to realize
that these ideas are just starting points, and try to get
them to engage the community before writing a proposal (or
worse, just submitting a proposal that is simply a
cut-and-paste of one of the ideas).

Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
---
 SoC-2012-Ideas.md |   25 ++++++++++++++++++++-----
 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/SoC-2012-Ideas.md b/SoC-2012-Ideas.md
index aeaacb1..0bd938a 100644
--- a/SoC-2012-Ideas.md
+++ b/SoC-2012-Ideas.md
@@ -1,9 +1,24 @@
 This page contains project ideas for Google Summer of Code 2012 from the
-Git user and development community. You can get started by reading some
-project descriptions, and the mailing list thread(s) that spawned them.
-If you have another idea, add it to this page and start a discussion on
-the [[git mailing
-list|https://git.wiki.kernel.org/articles/g/i/t/GitCommunity_c4e3.html#Mailing_List]].
+Git user and development community.
+
+If you're active in the git community and have an idea that you would
+feel comfortable mentoring, feel free to add it. If you have an idea but
+need to find a suitable mentor, please bring it up on the [git mailing
+list]; others can help you develop the idea and may volunteer to mentor.
+
+If you're a prospective GSoC student, read through the ideas and see if
+any interest you. But note that these are ideas, not project proposals;
+they may need details filled in or expanded to make a good project.
+Find an area that interests you and start a discussion on the [git
+mailing list], even if it's just by asking more about the topic. A good
+proposal will be clear about the problem to be solved, the history of
+work in that area, and the specifics of the approach that the GSoC
+project will take. You can find some of those answers by reading the
+code and searching the list archives, but discussing the idea with
+interested developers is a great way for both the student and mentor to
+reach an understanding of exactly what is to be accomplished.
+
+[git mailing list]: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/articles/g/i/t/GitCommunity_c4e3.html#Mailing_List
 
 Better git log --follow support
 -------------------------------
-- 
1.7.9.1.11.g9d81f

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-05 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-02  9:11 GSoC 2012 application process Jeff King
2012-03-02 11:05 ` [git wiki PATCH 1/3] "Improving parallelism in various commands" project Thomas Rast
2012-03-02 11:05   ` [git wiki PATCH 2/3] "Designing a faster index format" project Thomas Rast
2012-03-02 11:08     ` Jeff King
2012-03-02 18:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03  3:30       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-03-02 11:05   ` [git wiki PATCH 3/3] "Improving the `git add -p` interface" project Thomas Rast
2012-03-02 14:29   ` [git wiki PATCH 1/3] "Improving parallelism in various commands" project Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-03-02 17:35   ` James Pickens
2012-03-02 14:52 ` GSoC 2012 application process Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-03-02 21:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-03  0:09   ` Jeff King
2012-03-03 21:14 ` [git wiki PATCH] "Modernizing and expanding Git.pm" project Jakub Narebski
2012-03-03 22:23   ` Jeff King
2012-03-04 23:35 ` [git wiki PATCH] Teaching "--3way" to "git apply" Junio C Hamano
2012-03-05  5:33   ` Jeff King
2012-03-05  8:05     ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-05 10:02       ` Jeff King [this message]
2012-03-05 13:38 ` GSoC 2012 application process Matthieu Moy
2012-03-05 13:58   ` Jeff King
2012-03-05 14:42     ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-05 23:53       ` Jeff King
2012-03-07 14:36 ` GSoC backup admin Jeff King
2012-03-07 15:27   ` Shawn Pearce
2012-03-08 21:18 ` [gsoc2012 wiki PATCH] "Use JavaScript library / framework in gitweb" project Jakub Narebski
2012-03-09  7:24   ` Jeff King
2012-03-10  0:46 ` [gsoc2012 wiki PATCH] "`git instaweb --serve`" project Jakub Narebski
2012-03-11 22:30 ` [gsoc2012 wiki PATCH] "Graphical diff in git-gui" project Jakub Narebski

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