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* [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
@ 2010-08-21  7:26 Jean Delvare
  2010-08-21  8:22 ` Jakub Narebski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jean Delvare @ 2010-08-21  7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Git mailing list

Hi there,

I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
happened between specific tags.

The actual format for displaying the tags can certainly be discussed, I
have no strong opinion on this myself. We may want to let the admin
filter which tags should show up that way, maybe even letting him/her
define primary and secondary tag formats (think main releases vs.
release candidates) for nicer output. Then we may want to group (or
hide) tags when a file hasn't been modified in a long time. But these
are implementation details, even the raw functionality would be quite
useful IMHO, and hopefully not too difficult to implement.

At the moment I am using a custom tool when I need to answer this kind
of question, but being backed-up by quilt, it's quite slow and
disk-consuming. I would love to be able to get rid of it and use only
gitweb.

Thanks,
-- 
Jean Delvare

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21  7:26 [feature request] gitweb: tags in history Jean Delvare
@ 2010-08-21  8:22 ` Jakub Narebski
  2010-08-21  9:15   ` Jean Delvare
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2010-08-21  8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Delvare; +Cc: Git mailing list

Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:

> I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
> to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
> commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
> happened between specific tags.
> 
> The actual format for displaying the tags can certainly be discussed, I
> have no strong opinion on this myself. We may want to let the admin
> filter which tags should show up that way, maybe even letting him/her
> define primary and secondary tag formats (think main releases vs.
> release candidates) for nicer output. Then we may want to group (or
> hide) tags when a file hasn't been modified in a long time. But these
> are implementation details, even the raw functionality would be quite
> useful IMHO, and hopefully not too difficult to implement.

Currently in 'shortlog' view you can see 'ref' markers... which
include tags.

For example 'shortlog' view for 'maint' branch has the following
fragment:

 2010-07-28 	 Matthieu Moy	 Document ls-files -t as semi-obsolete.
 2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.2.1  [v1.7.2.1]
 2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.1.2
 2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.1.2  [v1.7.1.2]
 2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.0 series
 2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.0.7  [v1.7.0.7]

where e.g. [v1.7.2.1] is ref marker for 'v1.7.2.1' tag.

If you have something different in mind, please provide moackup,
either as ASCII-art, or link to HTML or image.

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland
ShadeHawk on #git

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21  8:22 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2010-08-21  9:15   ` Jean Delvare
  2010-08-21 10:17     ` Jakub Narebski
  2010-08-21 16:31     ` Lars Hjemli
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jean Delvare @ 2010-08-21  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Narebski; +Cc: Git mailing list

Hi Jakub,

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:22:05 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Narebski wrote:
> Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:
> 
> > I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
> > to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
> > commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
> > happened between specific tags.
> > 
> > The actual format for displaying the tags can certainly be discussed, I
> > have no strong opinion on this myself. We may want to let the admin
> > filter which tags should show up that way, maybe even letting him/her
> > define primary and secondary tag formats (think main releases vs.
> > release candidates) for nicer output. Then we may want to group (or
> > hide) tags when a file hasn't been modified in a long time. But these
> > are implementation details, even the raw functionality would be quite
> > useful IMHO, and hopefully not too difficult to implement.
> 
> Currently in 'shortlog' view you can see 'ref' markers... which
> include tags.
> 
> For example 'shortlog' view for 'maint' branch has the following
> fragment:
> 
>  2010-07-28 	 Matthieu Moy	 Document ls-files -t as semi-obsolete.
>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.2.1  [v1.7.2.1]
>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.1.2
>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.1.2  [v1.7.1.2]
>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.0 series
>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.0.7  [v1.7.0.7]
> 
> where e.g. [v1.7.2.1] is ref marker for 'v1.7.2.1' tag.
> 
> If you have something different in mind, please provide moackup,
> either as ASCII-art, or link to HTML or image.

Yes, visually this would be very fine with me.

But shortlog is a repository-wide view, while I need the same for
history which is a file-specific view. Things are obviously a little
more complex there, because for a given file, it is statistically
unlikely that each commit affecting the file in question corresponds to
a tag. So we have to find the best tag to display in front of
each commit (easiest bet would be the next tag time-wise) and maybe
improve a bit from there (for example by not showing the same tag
twice). But then again I would be very happy with a relatively raw
output for the time being.

Thanks,
-- 
Jean Delvare

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21  9:15   ` Jean Delvare
@ 2010-08-21 10:17     ` Jakub Narebski
  2010-08-21 16:31     ` Lars Hjemli
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2010-08-21 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Delvare; +Cc: Git mailing list

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Jean Delvare wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:22:05 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:
>> 
>>> I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
                                                ^^^^^^^
                                                    |
I'm very sorry, somehow I didn't notice this part --/

>>> to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
>>> commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
>>> happened between specific tags.
>>> 
>>> The actual format for displaying the tags can certainly be discussed, I
>>> have no strong opinion on this myself. We may want to let the admin
>>> filter which tags should show up that way, maybe even letting him/her
>>> define primary and secondary tag formats (think main releases vs.
>>> release candidates) for nicer output. Then we may want to group (or
>>> hide) tags when a file hasn't been modified in a long time. But these
>>> are implementation details, even the raw functionality would be quite
>>> useful IMHO, and hopefully not too difficult to implement.
>> 
>> Currently in 'shortlog' view you can see 'ref' markers... which
>> include tags.
>> 
>> For example 'shortlog' view for 'maint' branch has the following
>> fragment:
>> 
>>  2010-07-28 	 Matthieu Moy	 Document ls-files -t as semi-obsolete.
>>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.2.1  [v1.7.2.1]
>>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.1.2
>>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.1.2  [v1.7.1.2]
>>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Sync with 1.7.0 series
>>  2010-07-27 	 Junio C Hamano	 Git 1.7.0.7  [v1.7.0.7]
>> 
>> where e.g. [v1.7.2.1] is ref marker for 'v1.7.2.1' tag.
>> 
>> If you have something different in mind, please provide moackup,
>> either as ASCII-art, or link to HTML or image.
> 
> Yes, visually this would be very fine with me.
> 
> But shortlog is a repository-wide view, while I need the same for
> history which is a file-specific view. Things are obviously a little
> more complex there, because for a given file, it is statistically
> unlikely that each commit affecting the file in question corresponds to
> a tag.

At least in git repository the 'Git X.Y.Z' commit, which is tagged with
vX.Y.Z signed tag, touches only Documentation/RelNotes-X.Y.Z (and
changes Documentation/RelNotes symlink to point to it, if needed),
changes DEF_VER in GIT-VERSION-GEN (fallback version), and updates
Documentation/git.txt (for example adding link to newest RelNotes).

So it is very unlikely that for a given file there would be any tag
that points to commit in history of a file.

> So we have to find the best tag to display in front of 
> each commit (easiest bet would be the next tag time-wise) and maybe
> improve a bit from there (for example by not showing the same tag
> twice). But then again I would be very happy with a relatively raw
> output for the time being.

It would be unfortunately more costly than ref markers in 'shortlog'
and 'log' views, because it is not enough to get all refs and use
reverse mapping (from commit to the tag that points to it).  There
is decorate / name-rev, but it creates some performance cost.

So it wouldn't be easy to create a UI for this (ref markers are not
good, as they are meant to point directly to commit, not as 'tag
pagination'), and it wouldn't be very easy to get data that is needed
for that.

But this should be possible...
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21  9:15   ` Jean Delvare
  2010-08-21 10:17     ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2010-08-21 16:31     ` Lars Hjemli
  2010-08-21 17:21       ` Jakub Narebski
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Hjemli @ 2010-08-21 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Delvare; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Git mailing list

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:15, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:22:05 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:
>>
>> > I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
>> > to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
>> > commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
>> > happened between specific tags.
>> >
....
>
> But shortlog is a repository-wide view, while I need the same for
> history which is a file-specific view.

<shameless plug>
With cgit, you can answer such questions by combining path limiting
and range queries, e.g.
http://hjemli.net/git/cgit/log/scan-tree.c?qt=range&q=v0.8.2..v0.8.3
shows all commits affecting scan-tree.c between v0.8.2 and v0.8.3.
Maybe gitweb could implement something similar?
</shameless plug>

-- 
larsh

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21 16:31     ` Lars Hjemli
@ 2010-08-21 17:21       ` Jakub Narebski
  2010-08-21 17:47         ` Lars Hjemli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2010-08-21 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Hjemli; +Cc: Jean Delvare, Git mailing list

Lars Hjemli wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:15, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:22:05 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Narebski wrote:
>>> Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I have a feature request for gitweb. In the history view, I would like
>>>> to be (optionally) able to see the tags, interlaced with the actual
>>>> commits. The idea is to get an immediate view of all commits that
>>>> happened between specific tags.
>>>>
> ....
>>
>> But shortlog is a repository-wide view, while I need the same for
>> history which is a file-specific view.
> 
> <shameless plug>
> With cgit, you can answer such questions by combining path limiting
> and range queries, e.g.
> http://hjemli.net/git/cgit/log/scan-tree.c?qt=range&q=v0.8.2..v0.8.3
> shows all commits affecting scan-tree.c between v0.8.2 and v0.8.3.
> Maybe gitweb could implement something similar?
> </shameless plug>

Gitweb also supports range limiting in log-like views from some time,
but currently there is no UI for that, and you have to handcraft the URL,
e.g.:

  http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git?a=history;f=foo.c;hpb=v0.8.2;hb=v0.8.3

or (in the path_info form)

    http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git/history/v0.8.2..v0.8.3:/foo.c

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21 17:21       ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2010-08-21 17:47         ` Lars Hjemli
  2010-08-21 18:07           ` Jean Delvare
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Hjemli @ 2010-08-21 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakub Narebski; +Cc: Jean Delvare, Git mailing list

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 19:21, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lars Hjemli wrote:
>> <shameless plug>
>> With cgit, you can answer such questions by combining path limiting
>> and range queries, e.g.
>> http://hjemli.net/git/cgit/log/scan-tree.c?qt=range&q=v0.8.2..v0.8.3
>> shows all commits affecting scan-tree.c between v0.8.2 and v0.8.3.
>> Maybe gitweb could implement something similar?
>> </shameless plug>
>
> Gitweb also supports range limiting in log-like views from some time,
> but currently there is no UI for that, and you have to handcraft the URL,
> e.g.:
>
>  http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git?a=history;f=foo.c;hpb=v0.8.2;hb=v0.8.3
>
> or (in the path_info form)
>
>    http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git/history/v0.8.2..v0.8.3:/foo.c

Nice, I didn't know gitweb supported this - maybe it's all Jean needs?

-- 
larsh

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21 17:47         ` Lars Hjemli
@ 2010-08-21 18:07           ` Jean Delvare
  2010-08-21 18:50             ` Lars Hjemli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jean Delvare @ 2010-08-21 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Hjemli; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Git mailing list

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:47:12 +0200, Lars Hjemli wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 19:21, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lars Hjemli wrote:
> >> <shameless plug>
> >> With cgit, you can answer such questions by combining path limiting
> >> and range queries, e.g.
> >> http://hjemli.net/git/cgit/log/scan-tree.c?qt=range&q=v0.8.2..v0.8.3
> >> shows all commits affecting scan-tree.c between v0.8.2 and v0.8.3.
> >> Maybe gitweb could implement something similar?
> >> </shameless plug>
> >
> > Gitweb also supports range limiting in log-like views from some time,
> > but currently there is no UI for that, and you have to handcraft the URL,
> > e.g.:
> >
> >  http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git?a=history;f=foo.c;hpb=v0.8.2;hb=v0.8.3
> >
> > or (in the path_info form)
> >
> >    http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git/history/v0.8.2..v0.8.3:/foo.c
> 
> Nice, I didn't know gitweb supported this - maybe it's all Jean needs?

Well, as long as there is no UI for it, it's not too useful: I'm can
run git on the command line for the same result (with git log.)

Also, it doesn't exactly suits my needs. I don't necessarily know in
advance the range in which the change happened. Quite often, the
question I have to answer is the other way around, that is: when did a
given change happen? Sometimes I know the commit ID and I can just call
"git name-rev" (although it's somewhat slow and the output isn't
friendly), but sometimes I don't know even that, and this is when I'd
like to be able to just browse the history for a given file with
all relevant tags printed. This also gives a more general picture
of what happened to the file over time immediately, which is sometimes
useful.

Thanks,
-- 
Jean Delvare

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* Re: [feature request] gitweb: tags in history
  2010-08-21 18:07           ` Jean Delvare
@ 2010-08-21 18:50             ` Lars Hjemli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Hjemli @ 2010-08-21 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Delvare; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, Git mailing list

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 20:07, Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:47:12 +0200, Lars Hjemli wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 19:21, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Lars Hjemli wrote:
>> >> <shameless plug>
>> >> With cgit, you can answer such questions by combining path limiting
>> >> and range queries, e.g.
>> >> http://hjemli.net/git/cgit/log/scan-tree.c?qt=range&q=v0.8.2..v0.8.3
>> >> shows all commits affecting scan-tree.c between v0.8.2 and v0.8.3.
>> >> Maybe gitweb could implement something similar?
>> >> </shameless plug>
>> >
>> > Gitweb also supports range limiting in log-like views from some time,
>> > but currently there is no UI for that, and you have to handcraft the URL,
>> > e.g.:
>> >
>> >  http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git?a=history;f=foo.c;hpb=v0.8.2;hb=v0.8.3
>> >
>> > or (in the path_info form)
>> >
>> >    http://gitweb.example.com/repo.git/history/v0.8.2..v0.8.3:/foo.c
>>
>> Nice, I didn't know gitweb supported this - maybe it's all Jean needs?
>
> Well, as long as there is no UI for it, it's not too useful: I'm can
> run git on the command line for the same result (with git log.)
>
> Also, it doesn't exactly suits my needs. I don't necessarily know in
> advance the range in which the change happened. Quite often, the
> question I have to answer is the other way around, that is: when did a
> given change happen? Sometimes I know the commit ID and I can just call
> "git name-rev" (although it's somewhat slow and the output isn't
> friendly), but sometimes I don't know even that, and this is when I'd
> like to be able to just browse the history for a given file with
> all relevant tags printed. This also gives a more general picture
> of what happened to the file over time immediately, which is sometimes
> useful.

Ok, this fundamentally does not mix well with the kind of output which
gitweb/cgit generates (linear list of commits) - you'll need
--topo-order and a visual indication of "branch timelines", i.e. gitk.

-- 
larsh

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