From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jakub Narebski Subject: Re: [RFC] Git User's Survey 2010 (resend) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:42:52 +0200 Message-ID: <201007111942.54847.jnareb@gmail.com> References: <201007032158.57700.jnareb@gmail.com> <201007102158.25961.jnareb@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Felipe Contreras X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jul 11 19:43:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OY0Ye-00077L-0S for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:43:16 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753998Ab0GKRnJ convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:43:09 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f46.google.com ([209.85.161.46]:37715 "EHLO mail-fx0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753979Ab0GKRnH (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:43:07 -0400 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14so1932405fxm.19 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=cMvvXuyiAfVmVnL7fQ/MoCWBFO1BKg7Ty8/3wTONaBc=; b=NJZA5TApPRIun0Ps27qJXUXgPdu8mMbxTrOTLaEjFUWrmEan+pUeK6WWBr+Ho6Oy1B 1QUQgMjwEZpMuVJGeDKLZjR+KHa19B7t9sJmU540tgQSF0SlF70GRoOOXDYN0puTT25o L8mKrb4zu5QUO44MSq1S94PF5cAhfO17XWxts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=fN2AKVVnCIF/hrWvu7AyWiFV3YdCjPWmY8R3PhZI5gJ8fJ7QwBmeHa4DA8l8uldbIF c7siHZ5SE+qzkGv3m2FDWfgb6FtkkGPUe32I/evbYoa6KWhJ14wBVfes7Tanoryf48es hYB9v5zDbzTZVAOVsimdURVI0eBVGCbekU6tc= Received: by 10.223.103.141 with SMTP id k13mr10505597fao.16.1278870185731; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (abwj181.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.8.233.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h15sm7197354faj.33.2010.07.11.10.43.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Jakub Narebski w= rote: >> On Sat, 10 July 2010, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> 2010/7/3 Jakub Narebski : >>>> >>>> I guess it is time for annual (so far) Git User's Survey. =C2=A0Sh= ould >>>> there be one? =C2=A0When should it start, and how long should it l= ast? >>> >>> Yes, I think there should definitely be one! IMO one month is enoug= h. >> >> By the way, I think it is important that Git User's Survey 2010 last= s >> past the holidays, i.e. into September or even October, even at the >> cost of lasting two months, and not one month. >> >> What do you think about this? >=20 > My feeling is that the longer it is, the easier it's for people to > postpone it, and then forget about it. Hmmm... I haven't thought about this issue. I certainly don't plan for Git User's Survey 2010 to last longer than 2 months. We can always send / post reminders that the survey is coming to be closed. The problem with duration of last year survey was that some announcemen= ts got delayed because of holidays. > But I don't have a strong opinion either way. I think that 15 August to 15 September, or to 15 October would be good time (this is currently preliminary only). >>>> =3D=3D About you =3D=3D >>>> >>>> NOTES: >>>> ^^^^^^ >>>> This section gives us a bit of demographical information about sur= vey >>>> responders. =C2=A0Is it useful? =C2=A0Should we leave it in survey= , or remove it? >>>> >>>> Should we for example include 'gender' as one of questions? =C2=A0= Perl Survey >>>> 2010 did. >>> >>> I don't see the point of 'gender'. What does that tells us? >> >> Well, one can say that 'age' doesn't tell us much either. >=20 > I disagree. I think younger people, specially the ones who have not > been tainted by CVS, might find git easier to learn. Without this > question it's not possible to find that correlation. O.K., you convinced me: I'll leave age, but not add gender. =20 >>>> =3D=3D=3D 10. What do you use to edit contents under version contr= ol with Git? =3D=3D=3D >>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0What kind of editor, IDE or RAD you use= working with Git? >>>> (multiple choice, with other) >>> [...] >>>> NOTES: >>>> ^^^^^^ >>>> Is this question useful, or should it be removed from survey? >>> >>> I think this is useful to correlate communities. >> >> Hmmm... >=20 > Sorry, I thought the answers would be the actual application used: > Vim, Eclipse, MS Visual Studio, etc. If not, then I don't see the > point. >=20 > At least I remember finding out that most people use vim in some > previous survey, and I found that interesting. The problem is with not going overboard with number of possible answers= , but we can always take results of previous survey as hint (though=20 I don't remember if free-form questions are analyzed yet)/ >>>> =3D=3D=3D 19. Overall, how happy are you with Git? =3D=3D=3D >>>> (single choice) >>> [...] >>>> NOTES: >>>> ^^^^^^ >>>> I'm not sure if this question is at all useful. >>> >>> I think it is. Otherwise how do we know that people are happy with = it? >> >> Well, I think there is rather heavy bias that if people are unhappy >> with Git, they wouldn't be using it (well, unless they have to), and >> they wouldn't be responding to this Git User's Survey (because they >> didn't found it, for example). >=20 > There's people that would rather be using something else for various > reasons, but need to use git. Also, there's people that think that gi= t > is the best option, but not particularly ecstatic with it. All right, let's keep it. --=20 Jakub Narebski Poland