From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Russell King Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:19:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20080828191956.GA7906@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20080826145719.GB5046@coredump.intra.peff.net> <1219764860.4471.13.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com> <1219766398.7107.87.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20080826180926.GA25711@isilmar.linta.de> <23DFA9EC-9523-4179-BA3C-ACBDB82953DF@cs.indiana.edu> <20080827230903.GB11005@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <48B5E90E.3000601@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Steven Rostedt , Kristian =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8gsberg?= , Linus Torvalds , Dominik Brodowski , users@kernel.org, Jeff King , Perry Wagle , Johannes Schindelin , Junio C Hamano , David Woodhouse , git@vger.kernel.org To: Stefan Richter X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Aug 28 21:28:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYnAG-0005ML-0C for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:28:16 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753624AbYH1T1M (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:27:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753552AbYH1T1M (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:27:12 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:34685 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752795AbYH1T1L (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:27:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=arm.linux.org.uk; s=caramon; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: Message-ID:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: Sender; bh=l+8qFKVcN1zMNGN+chqGkeZf2JETA2JPIXbNlRZJHdQ=; b=V9t3h K3HQdU/Z3fx/AQRG6s6iT64Ej6u9YStjOBC3tzRm/QFU5AgWMWxRsCzbHcaKAmnV 8f/xjmUyj9yaYVyQcF4L6q8CmilHGgUKxL432jmcOS1NVJkLRUJvnWtGGvub14MV qFe44uMXanNu9aLL49ijusQNLXQPUwbnmeC/vY= Received: from flint.arm.linux.org.uk ([2002:4e20:1eda:1:201:2ff:fe14:8fad]) by caramon.arm.linux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KYn2F-0004g8-PZ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:20:00 +0100 Received: from rmk by flint.arm.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KYn2D-0002HA-78; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:19:57 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48B5E90E.3000601@s5r6.in-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 01:53:50AM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > Russell King wrote: > >And no warnings before hand that the commands you were using were > >deprecated. > > (a) They weren't deprecated, they were moved into a different directory. I think Junio will tell you differently on the "deprecation" bit. > (b) There have been several announcements of the 1.6.0 prereleases and > the 1.6.0 release crossposted. Of course somebody forgot to tell you > what you will learn from these release notes. Unfair. Cross posting to high traffic mailing lists doesn't guarantee that it'll be read. It's the wrong place to do it. Arguably, though, the lack of information to users on the system affected is not git maintainers fault. It's the fault of the admins on that system not having read the release notes themselves, and warning their users (for whom git is a *critical* bit of software) that an upgrade is going to take place, and they should read such-and-such. Like a note in the system MOTD. > (c) There do happen unannounced software updates on shell servers over > which you don't have control. Ask for your money back. > > (d) "-" -> " "? Molehill. "ls" -> "listfiles" - how would you feel about that change happening behind your back? -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: