From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Petr Baudis Subject: Re: Official Git Homepage change? Re: git-scm.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:15:32 +0200 Message-ID: <20080726151532.GT10151@machine.or.cz> References: <20080726015314.GU32184@machine.or.cz> <20080726020951.GV32184@machine.or.cz> <7v4p6dnv5k.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <7vtzedktmi.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Scott Chacon , git@vger.kernel.org To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Jul 26 17:16:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMlVw-00057v-40 for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:16:56 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752170AbYGZPPg (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:15:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752214AbYGZPPf (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:15:35 -0400 Received: from w241.dkm.cz ([62.24.88.241]:57130 "EHLO machine.or.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752170AbYGZPPf (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:15:35 -0400 Received: by machine.or.cz (Postfix, from userid 2001) id F0037393B321; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:15:32 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7vtzedktmi.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:11:01AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > The people who design the new features and write code should have easy > access to the issues the users of all levels have with the software and > the documentation (and what they find useful as well). What I am most > afraid of is that both "We do not bother the coders" and "We are too busy > to answer every newbie question" mentalities would lead to a fractured > community. The community is already fractured! I think we actually have very tiny fraction of the user base on the mailing list - the traffic is simply too massive. After all we chose _our_ convenience over _users'_ convenience in making this tradeoff. Also, as I mentioned in the other mail, it's not obvious to me whether major part of our community would be willing to participate in any mailing list at all. (Note that I don't want to imply that this would be inherently a Bad Thing. Some feedback still bubbles through and we have ways like Jakub's Git User Survey as well. Maybe the user community is by now simply too big to make the direct cross-pollination with developers feasible.) There was a proposal some time ago for making a web forum for Git; maybe we were too dismissive to the suggestion. I wonder where *do* these 100k of registered GitHubbers get their Git support now? :-) -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis As in certain cults it is possible to kill a process if you know its true name. -- Ken Thompson and Dennis M. Ritchie